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In the new layout with cab control, I have a strange problem. On block 10 when the toggle is to the "red" throttle side, only the red throttle side of the Z-4000 generates power and shows on the display. But when the toggle is switched to the "green" throttle side, both the red and green throttles generate power and is shown on their readouts. Any trains on tracks that are powered by either throttle come alive. Any ideas of how this can happen?

 

One the "red" side.

Problem with Block 10-1

 

Power displayed when "red" throttle is advanced, but no power on the "green" side when it's throttle is in the "Off" position... as it should be.

Problem with Block 10-2

 

Now switched to the "Green" side.

Problem with Block 10-3

 

 

Note: in this picture, the green throttle is down in the "off" position, but power is being displayed on the readouts, AND is being sent to the tracks controlled by the green throttle. No amps show up since there are no active trains on tracks controlled by green. If there were, they'd be getting power and turning on.

Problem with Block 10-4

 

 

 

 

 

 

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We have a similar problem at the Edgerton MRR Club where I am a member. Look at your insulating pins/ track joints. Somewhere there is a small whisker of metal or something else that is conductive across a gap. The meters on the mth4000 show voltage and current on one side but only voltage on the other. This shows that power is somewhere jumping from the power side to the off side. Thus showing voltage but not current. Hope this helps.

Here's some photos to go with the lengthy discussion on the problems. The first picture shows the removed jumper, and the second, the added ones.

 

Jumper Removal

 

Jumper Addition

 

You can see the insulated pins that isolated these two stubs of a track. In most people's installations, this problem would never arise since most people don't put blocks on either side of a crossing.

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Originally Posted by Trainman2001:

Here's some photos to go with the lengthy discussion on the problems. The first picture shows the removed jumper, and the second, the added ones.

 

 

 

Jumper Addition

 

You can see the insulated pins that isolated these two stubs of a track. In most people's installations, this problem would never arise since most people don't put blocks on either side of a crossing.

Many don't realize that Ross crossovers being unwired are built in blocks.

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