Here is a video of the engine running, enjoy!

You might change you thread title to "O5b", as that is an oil burning locomotive (plus, even the side of the cab is lettered "O5b"). For what it's worth, the real #5629 is on display at the Colorado Railroad Museum, in Golden, CO.

Exquisite!

Yeah mine burns coal as it did in the 40’s, didn’t you see the ash pans? But thanks for the suggestion!  I did not change the B as it would have damaged the paint job. I’ll live with it .

If anyone what’s the “oil burning compartment” let me know, I’ll ship it for free 

SANTIAGOP23 posted:

Yeah mine burns coal as it did in the 40’s, didn’t you see the ash pans?

No, because there aren't any, nor is there an ash hopper. Just because you inserted that optional coal load tender insert, still doesn't make he a coal burner.

But thanks for the suggestion!  I did not change the B as it would have damaged the paint job. I’ll live with it .

Nice!  When it comes to steam, coal is King.  (a problem I've had trying to upgrade tenders to a road Vanderbilt standard)

Hot Water posted:

SANTIAGOP23 posted:

Yeah mine burns coal as it did in the 40’s, didn’t you see the ash pans?

No, because there aren't any, nor is there an ash hopper. Just because you inserted that optional coal load tender insert, still doesn't make he a coal burner.

But thanks for the suggestion!  I did not change the B as it would have damaged the paint job. I’ll live with it .

 

Ehh yes there are, just because you don't see them doesn't mean they are not there, kinda like your toylike 3 rail track. But, unless you're suggesting Scott mispromotes his products, yes these can be O5As. Thanks again

I, too, have the Sunset 05. Beautiful locomotive.

You work is great.

Dick

 Sunset really did some nice work!  Your photos , as always, are exquisite.

Stunning engine and pictures. Everything looks better at your house!

Many thanks, gentlemen! 

For the record, six coal burning O5a's were converted to oil in 1950, as were two 4-6-4's (4002 & 4003). The oil burning O5b's were 5614, 5620, 5626, 5627, 5629 and 5632. They were Lines West locomotives, based in Lincoln, NE. All six O5b's were the last Burlington 4-8-4's in regular service, operating in the summer/early Fall of 1957. They were knocked out of service by a delivery of new SD9's.........#5629 is pictured in the  BRHS Burlington Bulletin SD7/9/24 issue, playing judas goat, delivering a new SD9 to Lincoln, NE in summer 1957.

As always, Santiago, your work is exemplary.

Thank you, Mark. I always look forward to your input.

A real rarity was 5625, on which the Q' experimented with the steam distribution system using poppet valves. I wish there was a Bulletin dedicated to Northerns like the one on the more prestigious S-4's.

Re the 5625/Poppet Valves, the January 1995 Railfan & Railroad Magazine had an engrossing article about trouble shooting the 5625, after it had been converted to poppet valve in early 1942. Written by Vernon L. Smith, a mechanical engineer working for Lima Locomotive + Franklin RY supply and, later, CMO for the Belt Ry of Chicago, if memory serves me.

Problems included warpage of valve chests, valve seats,  inadequate oil feed to the valve stem guides......on and on !  But, the 5625 performed, rushing high priority Chicago-Denver freights, weighing 3500-4500 tons comfortably at 60 mph - in cold, winter weather (journals are a bit resistant in cold weather).  Alas, 5625 was the 2nd O5 to be retired in 3/54.  

Santiago, noted your water column pictured at about 230 on your tape. In consideration of your meticulous attention to detail, you might want to give thought to obtaining a "Poage Style H water column with wheel", from American Scale Models. They were used extensively across the Burlington. The one depicted looks like a style I have never seen either in person, or in photos, on the Q. The ASM column is a bit pricey ($125), but a nicely executed model.  Just a thought.

Mark, you’re right! I considered the Wheel one but they were sold out at the time of purchase. They are back on so I may get one. The one I have is a PSC regular Poage column, I got it for half of ASM’s and it holds up nicely. 

Mark, I love my ASM wash rack, can’t wait for the upcoming  brush sections!

Bet the Burlington had a wash rack in Denver, to clean the "silver fleet".    Nice detail piece.

I wonder if these ever pulled a 47-48 Expo consist with th CZ domes in it. The Q was relying heavily on F3’s and E7’s during those years. 

Santiagop23 that wash rack is awesome!  I have to get one!  My yard is ballasted, here is a pic..

Would you set the rack directly on the ballast?  Or would you set it on a "concrete" slab?  Thanks for sharing the pic of the wash rack, I have been looking for one for along time!  P.S. sorry if I hi-jacked your thread!!

No prob, happy to help. Your layout looks awesome.

Yeah ballast and wash racks don’t go together, you need a concrete platform. I will build one when I get all the parts and will make it into a section of the layout. 

Santiago,

Beautiful engine, cars and a very fine video production. The only way I see that it could be enhanced would be by adding buildings and scenery onto the layout. I would like to see you do that.

Also - a question. Did the Pullman car Latrobe run on the CB&Q? Latrobe is in Pennsylvania. Did you finish the brass passenger cars? They are beautiful.

MELGAR

Thanks Santiago!  Thanks for the compliment too.  Well, my layout is a work in progress.  Do you have any pics of prototypical wash racks?  I too will buy both pieces from ASM, and I am curious how far to separate them.  I have seen the work you do and maybe I should wait until you post pics of your scene and just copy you!

MELGAR posted:

Santiago,

Beautiful engine, cars and a very fine video production. The only way I see that it could be enhanced would be by adding buildings and scenery onto the layout. I would like to see you do that.

Also - a question. Did the Pullman car Latrobe run on the CB&Q? Latrobe is in Pennsylvania. Did you finish the brass passenger cars? They are beautiful.

MELGAR

Thanks, MELGAR! No, this is a factory painted brass car by 3rd Rail. The paint job is fantastic so I'm not touching it. No idea where Latrobe ran, but some 12-1 cars on the Q' were "Adriatha", "Moorhead", "Cymric", "Estes Park" and "Cornhusker".

T4TT, I posted a thread with the ASM wash rack. Hope you like it!

SANTIAGOP23 posted:

I wonder if these ever pulled a 47-48 Expo consist with th CZ domes in it. The Q was relying heavily on F3’s and E7’s during those years. 

A question that probably has the same answer for most Burlington big steam in the immediate post-war era. I had wondered something similar about their S4 class hudson, being as I own a 3rd Rail version of the unshrouded #4000.  

I deduce that keeping the shiny bling clean may have swayed the company towards hauling with diesel exclusively.  Frequent stops with steam could have also been a determining factor.  In a search for photographic evidence I came across a shot of 4000 pulling a string of streamlined cars into Chicago.  Problem was, the first class train being pulled was GN's Empire Builder.

If you find out anything conrete, I'd appreciate learning about it.

Bruce

SANTIAGOP23 posted:

Here is a video of the engine running, enjoy!

Nice locomotive you have here.Ever let her run fast?I mean its a passenger  train hauler after all.It has a very nice sounding whistle.

Seaboard M - - - Yes, the O5's were passenger haulers (I traveled behind O5b #5632 pulling an excursion in 1961, doing 90 mph along the Mississippi R in WI). But, they were also dual service freight haulers, quite comfortable pulling 100 freight cars at 60 mph. Great locomotives !

BR Web - - - Kind of an interesting story behind the two stainless steel streamlined 4-6-4's on the Burlington. One (#4000) was an existing locomotive, that received a streamlined cowl (1937). The other (#4001) was built new (1938) at the W. Burlington shop. The Burlington opted for steam locomotive back-ups for the new, diesel Zephyr fleet because the same horsepower could be obtained at a cheaper price with steam locomotives !!    The two engines were de-streamlined in 1941, as the beautiful E5's had arrived in 1940, so the Zephyr fleet was adequately covered.

Bruce,

I too own Sunset's post war "Alice", S-4s maybe the finest steam locomotive in Q history. Simply legendary. Our version comes with MARS light and automatic train control box, so it's more appropriate for mid 50s onward modeling. 

S4s pulled the E builder in their early years, but thy did pulled Budd lightweight and dome cars in local trains and fan trips later on.

Here you can see her before MARS and ATC pulling a local, the dome car back there is probably Silver Dome, a car I'd love to see someone offer. 

I love this pic of #5629

Very nice SANTIAGO. The only thing I find a bit odd is the men in the cab. Do you think their the wrong scale or maybe just sitting too low?

Thanks, Dave. The man on the picture seems larger because he's standing up, the figures are the correct scale, but you're right they may be sitting a bit low.

Please check out the latest issue of the wonderful OSR for the specifics of these upgrades!

http://oscale.uberflip.com/t/6...the-o-scale-resource

Mark, finally gathered enough need for parts from Bill Davis to order his Poage e wheel column. I love it! 

Thank heavens someone is giving the props to the Q.   They weren't the biggest or the fastest.  They were far from the fanciest railroad but there was something special there just like every other of the bigger roads.  The Twin Cities Zephyrs matched the CN&W and MILW. Road  timetables even thought the Q's route was many miles longer.   NYC had 100s of Mohawks.   Pennsy had 100s of K4s.     CB&Q had 30 or 40 O5s?    Still, they were awesome locomotives that could pull 90 car freights at 60mph or a long string of heavyweights at 85 or 90.   

Really enjoy your posts.  Thanks