Skip to main content

Some people are NEVER happy, you could load the trailer inside with $20.00 dollar bills and people would still complain, amazing!!! If you don't like the offering don't buy it!!! Again, Menard's never ever said they would make "Scale" cars. You want a scale car then buy another manufacturer's product at about what $75.00 or more each. Enjoy what Menard's is offering and realize what it is for the price offered. I have been collecting for over 40 years and have never seen another company offer as much as they do for the price. It is all about choices, people!!! IMO

Enjoy your trains

Jeff

@jjames9641 posted:

Menard's never ever said they would make "Scale" cars. You want a scale car then buy another manufacturer's product at about what $75.00 or more each.

Enjoy your trains

Jeff

Jeff,

I completely agree with your statement, if you do not like it, do not buy it. Menards gives a great "bang" for your buck when it comes to rolling stock.

That being said.. Menards has those 14-3/4" flatcars which are pretty close to scale 60' flatcars. And with such a great price and fantastic detail, they are close enough in size for me! 

Bryce

Last edited by Oscale_Trains_Lover_
@PRRMP54 posted:

That trailer looks more like a European design with the three single wheels on each side. If those flatcars are the O-27 size than the truck appears to be less than 1/48. A properly sized semi should be 2" (8') wide; some newer trailer are 8' 6" wide.

One must remember that Menards isn't a train store so, if you're looking for scale accuracy, you're in the wrong store.

@jjames9641 posted:

Some people are NEVER happy, you could load the trailer inside with $20.00 dollar bills and people would still complain, amazing!!! 

Some folks are wound tight. Nobody said Scale. Menards has a similar but better quality flat car already in their line. It’s a flat car. We’re talking a few ounces of plastic and a sprints of paint on the deck? The word “value” gets thrown around too easily these days. If you get 7 dog apples in a box instead of 6, is it a value, or are you smart enough to know you shouldn’t waste money on dog apples?

A028964D-CE13-4FAC-A05E-DCF15DEDA817

Attachments

Images (1)
  • A028964D-CE13-4FAC-A05E-DCF15DEDA817
@breezinup posted:

I thought it a little strange seeing three axles on the trailer. There may be some European roots there, given that most of the semi-trailers I've seen in Europe have three axles. (The tractors commonly have two axles.)

I've seen triple-axle container trailers in Canada, three and (and even four) axle trailers are a lot more commonplace north of the border*. Not sure if all the ones I saw had single or dual-tire wheels, though as I didn't look for that detail.

---PCJ

*as are straight trucks (dump, cement mixer) with dual steering axles up front.

So has it been determined what scale the cab and trailer are? 

As to the person who is having a problem with those questioning/complaining I say this.  Menard's cheerfully makes scale/near scale vehicles.  They also make near scale flatcars.  To the casual observer it seems weird for Menard's to then make vehicles not to scale to squeeze onto not to scale flatcars.   Why not marry existing scale vehicles to their flatcar counterparts?  For instance I bought a Santa Fe box truck at 1:48.  I also bought (a gift really) one of the long near scale flatcars.  I drilled a whole thru the bottom of the flatcar to secure the scale truck.  Simple.  The price to do this was still way below what ether Lionel or MTH would have charged.  Seems like Menard's could do in the factory what I did by myself.

To Sam Jumper, nobody is wound tight. You're the one who stated a "step backwards." How is it a step backwards? You mean if it's not scale, it's a step backwards? That would be your opinion, being expressed on the 027 and traditional forum (both of which can easily be hi-rail, since the original definition has nothing to do with scale). Maybe what is a step backwards for you is a giant step forwards for many of us on this particular forum.

And to Bwana Bob, how is it "weird for Menard's to then make vehicles not to scale to squeeze onto not to scale flatcars." This is not a new idea... Menards has done these shorter flatcars with vehicles before, and they did them first before the scale flat car, and before the recent introductions of 1:48 vehicles and trailers. To this casual observer, this would be normal.

There are different interests within the very small 3 rail market. There are modelers who want THIS kind of product, and they also happen to be on the right forum to talk about it. Or maybe we should all head over to the 3-rail scale forum to lobby the train makers to make more 027 scale trains .

Consider that for the vast majority of the history of 3-rail trains, there were NO scale product lines: You had the 027 line and then the O gauge line. Even today, we use these terms, "traditional" and "semi-scale." Well, gosh golly, that's what Lionel has been for most of their history, until really they went overseas and could afford to invest in all the new scale product tooling of which the traditional products help to pay for. I guess you could call it a subsidy.

Lionel has said at the end of the day, it is their traditional product line of starter sets that pays the bills and keeps them in business. So maybe Lionel should raise the prices 50-100% so that those scale products make the same positive contribution to Lionel's bottom line. Most of the folks complaining about Lionel's prices on scale rolling stock fail to notice that many of those items are priced not too far off from the traditional rolling stock prices. In the case of the US made LionScale, even less than a foreign made traditional car with die cast trucks.

And if the scale products were SO popular, then the train companies would be making individual production in the thousands and not in the dozens. And it's not just Lionel, who takes an undue amount of criticism here. It wasn't long ago when MTH would come out a catalog and then a couple months later, there'd be dozens of cancellations due to lack of pre-orders. I remember looking at the Atlas O website and a full 25% of all the scale products listed were cancelled due to lack of orders.

Even Mike Wolf has said the Railking line is the most popular of the MTH lines, and that the fantasy seasonal Christmas cars are among the best selling. So different strokes for different folks. One doesn't make the other wrong.

So Menards is now making something that appeals to the traditional operator. Good. But fear not... they'll be making something in the near future that will appeal more to the scale operator. It's much less a case of going backwards, then it is a case of good business (and smart) by making products for all the varied interests within this overall small 3-rail market.

 

 

 

Last edited by brianel_k-lineguy

I guess I wasn't clear.  I know Menard's first did the non-scale flatcar/non-scale vehicle combo.  I've bought one. I thought it was "weird" they would continue to do so but not do the (obvious to me) next step and offer what I myself put together; take a Menard's "scale" vehicle and marry it to a long flat car.  They're already manufacturing the two pieces, why not offer them together as one?  Or in the case of the new 2 car offering, release a BNSF long flatcar with the full Schneider tractor/trailer combo.

Add Reply

Post

OGR Publishing, Inc., 1310 Eastside Centre Ct, Ste 6, Mountain Home, AR 72653
800-980-OGRR (6477)
www.ogaugerr.com

×
×
×
×
Link copied to your clipboard.
×
×