A true champion on this forum, Mark Boyce has tasked me to build his Kline scale Hudson into the stump puller these engines should be …..So to start off his build thread, I thought we’d take a look at the beginnings on just how I get those killer MTH chassis to land so nicely in the Kline boiler course, ……I start with the stock Kline model in front of me, carefully measuring key mounting points and to see where things need to land. No doubt Kline hit the mark with ride height, style & grace. Had they used a large rear facing motor, no doubt the Kline scale Hudson would have set the bar so high, it would darn near be untouchable,……obviously, with many of these under my belt, it’s settled into a rhythm building them,…..I start by cutting off the back of the MTH chassis, as it won’t fit in the Kline underside. I then machine up a nice mounting plate to anchor the chassis to, ….this provides a good sturdy home for strength, durability, and ease of maintenance if the need arrives for servicing,…..the stock front post is reused, & there’s one located hole in the MTH chassis that lines up for a perfect fit. One single stainless washer is used under the post. I’ve found this post can get “mushroomed” during the build process, so the single stainless washer aids in spreading the load off the narrow post,…..I take into account its thickness…..the plate in the rear, and the post in the front are then milled to get back to that perfect ride height that really sets these Kline engines apart from the crowd. I’m actually quite further along in Mark’s build, but I wanted to share some key points on this swap. Mark has had the patience of Jobe, so as usual, we’ll knock this one out of the park for the true Gentleman O gauger!…
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Another great project begins to take shape.
@Mark Boyce- You are a lucky guy and Pat's comments are spot on! Will this run on your layout or the ceiling central?
Bob
Prepare for the kitchen sink to be pulled out of the wall and then some Mark. This engine will pull the house down if you're not careful.
Love the mechanical craftsmanship that Pat brings to a project like this. Everything I've seen from Pat is top shelf work, this one is looking like it follows that trend.
Well Pat, as far as the gentleman goes, thank you! I guess it goes back to my high school days 50 and more years ago, when we called each other ‘a gentleman and a scholar’ a lot. We had so many gentlemanly scholars at my small rural high school, we must have gotten big heads. Life whittled us down. I guess that is where patience came in. I know working men at our age need to take our time. You have proven taking your time has made for excellent projects!
The work on the engine looks great. Your experience on these and other projects helps in making the best decisions on how to proceed on each one.
To answer Bob’s question, I plan to run this engine on the main layout. I’m afraid I will drop it getting it on and off the Ceiling Central Railroad, since I have to step up on the folding platform to get high enough to place anything up there. Also, it is too high to get a good look at a steam engine.
Pat quizzed me on the grades and curves of the main layout when I sent the engine to him. As you know Since then, I started modifying the layout into two loops, high and low, with two ~4% ramps between the loops. I have a very nice 4-car set of 18” Lionel NYC streamlined cars I intend to run with it. I am keeping them boxed while construction goes on, but use them for clearance standards. I realize this engine will easily pull them, and will have to watch it doesn’t leave the track or it could go through the brick and block wall into the laundry room, Dave!
I will probably make up a long train of cars just to see how many it will pull, like John did with the yellow beast!
Thank you, Pat, for your post! There is no rush.
Bravo Maestro!
Hi Mark Boyce, great choice of engine and you've got the best man building it for you it will come out perfect Pat! way to go! good luck Mark and enjoy it can't wait to see a video of your running it on your modified layout!
Alan
Is the MTH chassis an indispensable part of the K-Line Hudson rebuild?
@KarlDL posted:Is the MTH chassis an indispensable part of the K-Line Hudson rebuild?
To make it pull stumps out of the ground, yes.
Pat
@Mark Boyce, Mark, all I can say is, Your going to be very happy, and it will be a stump puller. I can pull so many heavyweight passenger cars with my K-Line rebuild it’s unreal. Pats the best. Harmonyards is a great shop, however, you don’t hear much about the Madisonville Shops, my friend Rich Hane runs the Madisonville Shops and he can add fine detailing, fix wrecked diesel handrails, electrical issues, re-paint issues. Pat is the machine specialist, and both shops are great. Happy Railroading Everyone
@Mark Boyce posted:Well Pat, as far as the gentleman goes, thank you! I guess it goes back to my high school days 50 and more years ago, when we called each other ‘a gentleman and a scholar’ a lot. We had so many gentlemanly scholars at my small rural high school, we must have gotten big heads. Life whittled us down. I guess that is where patience came in. I know working men at our age need to take our time. You have proven taking your time has made for excellent projects!
The work on the engine looks great. Your experience on these and other projects helps in making the best decisions on how to proceed on each one.
To answer Bob’s question, I plan to run this engine on the main layout. I’m afraid I will drop it getting it on and off the Ceiling Central Railroad, since I have to step up on the folding platform to get high enough to place anything up there. Also, it is too high to get a good look at a steam engine.
Pat quizzed me on the grades and curves of the main layout when I sent the engine to him. As you know Since then, I started modifying the layout into two loops, high and low, with two ~4% ramps between the loops. I have a very nice 4-car set of 18” Lionel NYC streamlined cars I intend to run with it. I am keeping them boxed while construction goes on, but use them for clearance standards. I realize this engine will easily pull them, and will have to watch it doesn’t leave the track or it could go through the brick and block wall into the laundry room, Dave!
I will probably make up a long train of cars just to see how many it will pull, like John did with the yellow beast!
Thank you, Pat, for your post! There is no rush.
It will look great pulling Streamliners or Madisons. I was watching a s-word ton of New York Central videos yesterday, and as Pat has told me that the Central would often throw whatever cars they had together after a while to make their runs. I think one of the many videos yesterday had one of the non-shrouded Hudson's pulling some Streamliners, a couple of Madison's, and then some other type of car which I think was a different colored Streamliner. Any way you slice it, this stump puller will look great, and be a proud example of pulling a s-word ton of passenger cars behind it whatever consist it may be Mark.
Good Luck to you MARK, I have one of these K -line Hudsons that I am contemplating on getting a redo by PAT. I will watch with great anticipation, but I know that the HARMONYARDS are TOP NOTCH!!!! Go get em PAT!!!