I have to ask, is the B&O Camel Back correct? If so I am in for one.
I got really excited for the new MBTA F40PH, and also the GP 38-2 First Responders Units.
Haven't pre-ordered anything in a long time, but looks like I'll be doing it this year!
BTW - Still looking for a re-run of the MBTA Passenger Cars, I missed out on them when they were released about ~10years ago? Still kicking myself for not picking them up.
I take that back! Page 130 - 20-61030 / a 4 Car Set! + a 2 car addon pack! - FINALLY!!
Serenska posted:"As just one example, other than the guy who is fastidiously purchasing "one of each" of O Scale Alaska RR items, who among us will buy (or has bought) the Alaska RR 4-6-2 Pacific shown on Page 11 of the catalog? I could be way off base, but I have to wonder if MTH will sell even 50 of these. Am I way off base?"
Thoughts?
Steven J. Serenska
My guess is once the tooling is complete, to run and decorate 50 of an item is miniscule. Especially without an elaborate paint scheme.
Michigan & Ohio Valley Lines posted:
- CSX B&O 185th Anniversary Caboose (way off, but I like it)
That is a real caboose that CSX uses. Paint is faded but it is a real piece. I like it but there are several recent production Railking versions I get if one ever crosses my path.
I'll be ordering everything Metra.
Zip, zero, nothing. I don't see a thing that interests me. ohwell guess my wallet will thank me.
Should the C&O 3000 ACE not be numbered 614T? What about all the Greenbriers with no white walls is this not incorrect?
Since I just went on an excursion Sunday behind the NS heritage in the Southern paint scheme, I might have to get one of those in Railking size.
AMCDave posted:My wallet is safe. Last new O scale loco/car item I bought was about 3 years ago....and $1600 Challengers and $70 box cars will keep it that way.
The Family Lines GP-38 would be nice....but not at $500........
sorry....
I would like the Family Lines GP38-2 myself, just too steep for me.
Maybe a couple of pieces of Premier rolling stock and that's about all I saw that was of real interest. The only must have might be the BNSF caboose, not sure I have seen those offered previously?
I like the Camelback, would kind of like to have one, but they have no road names I really want. Also $1,000 is about $500 more than I want to pay for a single engine. Maybe I will just keep watching the LC+ Camelback for more road names?
After about 5 years of way more than I could afford in every catalog, it looks like MTH is finally giving me a break, which for the last couple of years I have been desperately hoping for. And hopefully things will stay that way after a more thorough look at the new catalog. 
Just looked through the new MTH Catalog and couldn't get excited about anything, especially the prices! 
Believe me, I'm no "Taffy Pockets" by any stretch of the imagination but as has been stated many times before, these are "toys" and I personally have to draw the line at some point. Just Sayin'. 
Chief Bob (Retired) 
I might get that FA-2 with matching dummy, so I can kit bash them into a pair of E2bs
SJC posted:Michigan & Ohio Valley Lines posted:
- CSX B&O 185th Anniversary Caboose (way off, but I like it)
That is a real caboose that CSX uses. Paint is faded but it is a real piece. I like it but there are several recent production Railking versions I get if one ever crosses my path.
Thank you . I do know it is real; I meant "way off" because of the caboose window arrangement/shape. Looks great and will be nice to have in O. I missed the RailKing versions so I'll have to check those out...thanks.
Well, my wallet finally caught a break. A few near misses, but nothing that gets me excited. They finally did a Family Lines scheme, but I just don't like it so much on the GP-38. I wish they had put it on a U-boat. I will be getting the Family Lines bay window caboose, but that is about it for this catalog. I am glad to see they now have led lighting in the passenger cars.
Definate Orders:
- NS 40 Boxcar (Premier)
- Chessie Passenger cars (Premier)
Thinking about:
- ATSF 4-8-4 2926 (Premier)
- C&O Greenbrier 614 (Premier)
- Presidential Greenbrier 614 (Premier)
- Auxiliary tenders for Greenbriers (Premier)
Not sure about:
- Royal Hudsons numbers 2860 & 2839
- PRR G5 (Any dealers interested in doing one as Long Island #39?)
About the Greenbrier, would it be possible to use the a slightly new tooling for the 614's modified tender? Also, I think 2 of the variations of the 614 (C&O & Chessie Safety Express) are missing white wall drivers & a black smokebox door. Other than that, they're pretty good.
I'd love to order several of the European steamers as they are very well executed.
What I do not understand is why our American models look so inferior to the European models that MTH makes. The European steamers are full of fine piping and honest to goodness firebox above the trailing trucks.
However our American models look terrible in comparison especially the lack of anything above the trailing truck. Typically a whole bunch of air! Even their premier models are lacking in many respects.
MTH isn't alone and I have the same issues with many of the other manufacturers. It's just a pity that our American models look so pale when set against the European ones.
I've heard the excuse in the past that compromise is needed for negotiating tight curves, but the premier locomotives aren't going around 0-27 curves!
If someone could explain this to me I'd greatly appreciate it!!!!!!
The New York Container Terminal GP38 is something that hasn't been done and is a one off Its the best thing MTh has announced in awhile Add two Camelbacks, a Susquehanna SD60, Long Island RS1 and a gaggle of heavyweight passenger cars to the mix GREAT catalog
SPSF posted:SD45 - NOT.
I'm sorry but the Erie Lackawanna as road number 1700 is Not acceptable as a Premier line model as the Real locomotive is an SD45-2, not the same.
Pennsylvania SD45 AGAIN?!?!
Once again No SOUTHERN PACIFIC SD45. OMG, What a waste of Tooling
I agree! I have waited a long time to see SPSF's reaction when they announce a SP SD-45 and guess I will keep waiting!
I am looking at the MRL high cubes and centerflow hoppers myself and think that will be all I preorder except maybe the UP flag baggage car. Hmmm....
I'll pass on this catalog. Some stuff caught my eye but there was no "I really want that!" moments. Still no GP60M's?? Overall disappointment.
have to agree, with the Yellow colored pages, --- Have we not seen this before. The new colors of ES, and lights ought to bring some new sales.
Lets see, I get a building with lights, colors, accessories, from the M guys, and its here in 3 days, why do I need a building.
the NS, thoughts are nice, but I have no NS freight or Pass / cars. NA- Da, I want to see an LCCA event in Charlotte this spring!!!!!!
Warehouse Sale
Personally I am very disappointed with this catalog. I've been around long enough to remember the days of multiple newly tooled engines per catalog. Not only are there no newly tooled engines, but they aren't upgrading old tooling either. Why bother touting Proto 3/2 technology if they aren't going to continue to embrace it? Perhaps it's time to say it was a neat idea that didn't pan out? MTH tells me that they don't get enough 2R orders to make many 2R models. Not much I can do about that if they aren't offered. I have recently been running Hi-rail steam on 2 rail hi-rail track with success. I was looking forward to the G5 in this catalog. Unfortunately they didn't bring back the 2R version and the Hi-rail version doesn't support Proto 3/2. I have to admit that my tastes and demands have changed over the years and I am no longer a typical MTH customer. Between their lack of new O products, and their handling of S scale I think I'm just about done with MTH. It may be time for me to finally give in and go to HO or N for good. I don't see the future of O or S getting any better for what I want to do.
Well, the CP Hudsons caught my eye.
But with our currency devalued, high taxes, shipping . . . the cost is too high! About $1900 CDN to get it here.
And I already have a beautiful CP Hudson! (Weaver 2816).
And I already have too many engines anyway!
But my initial reaction on seeing them was, "Ohhh. maybe one of them!"
Maybe I'll weaken . . .
Does anyone notice how goofy looking the pilot area looks on the C&O 4-8-4? Compare a real picture to this model, something is really wacky there. I think it is the same way on the ATSF 4-8-4.
I haven't been following MTH's offerings for some time. Is the 2-rail scale track a new offering? And does the tie spacing suffer the same wide spacing issue as Scaletrax?
Above:
"I have to ask, is the B&O Camel Back correct? If so I am in for one."
Answer: Internet, Internet, Internet. You are there right now.
Per the catalogue - no orders. Lots of nice things, but I have so much, the RS road names are, again, too Other Regional, the locos are not my preferred OS, I already have a PS-1 ATSF 2900 4-8-4 and PS-1 C&O Greenbrier, both awaiting ERR upgrades...and so on and so on.
The Green-brier? Unh.
Nada.
Following in the footsteps of the last 3-4 LCT catalogs. 
Terry Danks posted:Well, the CP Hudsons caught my eye.
But with our currency devalued, high taxes, shipping . . . the cost is too high! About $1900 CDN to get it here.
And I already have a beautiful CP Hudson! (Weaver 2816).
And I already have too many engines anyway!
But my initial reaction on seeing them was, "Ohhh. maybe one of them!"
Maybe I'll weaken . . .
I've been waiting for a non-streamlined, non-Royal Canadian Pacific or Canadian National steam engine, 4-8-4 size, so still no-go. Being a first edition baby boomer there's no time to lose now.
$999.95 for a Premier 4-6-0 or a 2-6-0 Camelback!? Even with 5% dealer pre-order discount this is getting really expensive.
I'm going to have to break one of my own rules about not buying anything motorized from MTH. However, the item in question wouldn't be for the layout, and is a must have because it literally "hits me where I live". I'm talking about the Twin Cities Lines PCC car. Probably get a couple and do a small ceiling layout with them.
Beyond that, a few premier cars, mostly high cubes and gons, and I'm done with this catalog.
A GREENBRIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sign me up for one Metra loco and a full set of cars. Ride it every day to the office so why not remind myself on the weekend of where I need to be on Monday! 
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Happy for MU Eagle in getting his NP SD45. Man that must be one happy dude. Have you ever seen so much excitement in a post?!!!
Big Jim posted:Does anyone notice how goofy looking the pilot area looks on the C&O 4-8-4? Compare a real picture to this model, something is really wacky there. I think it is the same way on the ATSF 4-8-4.
There were two different types of pilots. The J3's 600-606 had one type and the J3a's 610-610 had a different style.
Mark Mcclung posted:Big Jim posted:Does anyone notice how goofy looking the pilot area looks on the C&O 4-8-4? Compare a real picture to this model, something is really wacky there. I think it is the same way on the ATSF 4-8-4.
There were two different types of pilots. The J3's 600-606 had one type and the J3a's 610-610 had a different style.
So is the new one correct for the 602 and the 614?
What I'd like:
Railking Veterans unit SD70ACe and bay window caboose set. It's not realistic, but at this stage, if I ever find any money, I don't have the space for the actual model.
Port Authority of Allegheny County T PCC car. AWESOME. Thanks MTH.
US Steel hot metal cars. Why not?
The AC44CWM (I think that's the NS designation) would be nice, but again, no money and no curve radius.
For a number of reasons, I'm into HO scale, now; and I think very highly of their(MTH'S) HO locomotive offerings...
Some GREAT locomotives being offered, from the Premier line: two GE's(AC4400CW's & Dash-9's), Canadian Pacific GP38, VIA F40-PH, SD45, and the Canadian Pacific Hudson's... to name a few; and, they come in scale wheels versions, too.
These are exactly the type of locomotives that I like; regardless of the scale...
My compliments, MTH.
Rick
The Union Pacific Baggage Car with the American Flag. As well as the first responders Locos. Now to save up and buy
NCT posted:Mark Mcclung posted:Big Jim posted:Does anyone notice how goofy looking the pilot area looks on the C&O 4-8-4? Compare a real picture to this model, something is really wacky there. I think it is the same way on the ATSF 4-8-4.
There were two different types of pilots. The J3's 600-606 had one type and the J3a's 610-610 had a different style.
So is the new one correct for the 602 and the 614?
No they had a different style since the #602 was a J3 and the #614 was a J3a. I think Sunset did some J3's in the past. It would be interesting to see their pilots.
Arthur posted:I've been waiting for a non-streamlined, non-Royal Canadian Pacific or Canadian National steam engine, 4-8-4 size, so still no-go. Being a first edition baby boomer there's no time to lose now.
Well, MTH did offer 6069 4-8-2 "Bullet-Nose Betty" just a year or so ago. It's pretty nice. Weaver's CP2816 was a gorgeous, unstreamlined Hudson but that was back nine years ago and I had to gut mine and replace the TAS boards with ERR. Love it though! It was worth the hassle! (I think!)
If you missed it, you missed it. That's the trouble in this hobby. We so often see posts like "it's the same ole, same ole." But for those who missed the year it was offered, that's a slap in the face! I may still weaken and get one of the Hudsons . . . maybe. Our "Northern Peso" sure isn't making me feel good about buying though! 
Peter Araujo posted:Definate Orders:
- NS 40 Boxcar (Premier)
- Chessie Passenger cars (Premier)
Thinking about:
- ATSF 4-8-4 2926 (Premier)
- C&O Greenbrier 614 (Premier)
- Presidential Greenbrier 614 (Premier)
- Auxiliary tenders for Greenbriers (Premier)
Not sure about:
- Royal Hudsons numbers 2860 & 2839
- PRR G5 (Any dealers interested in doing one as Long Island #39?)
About the Greenbrier, would it be possible to use the a slightly new tooling for the 614's modified tender? Also, I think 2 of the variations of the 614 (C&O & Chessie Safety Express) are missing white wall drivers & a black smokebox door. Other than that, they're pretty good.
I looked at the two PS2 MTH Greenbrier's I have #610 has black walls and #613 has whitewalls. Go figure but they do have graphite smokebox doors.
Can't resist. Will be adding the RailKing RS-1 in Genesee & Wyoming Bicentennial paint. I really like the look of it and G&W has ties to my favorite short line...Ohio Central.
