Union Pacific 3-Unit Gas Turbine.........................
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Originally Posted by BigBoy4014:
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What is that second engine??
And this one!!!!
Lots of room for motors, smoke units and speakers...
Originally Posted by Swafford:
Union Pacific 3-Unit Gas Turbine.........................
Originally Posted by Swafford:
Union Pacific 3-Unit Gas Turbine.........................
You don't care for the well detailed MTH "Big Blow"?
I would plunk down my coins rather quickly for a VL Allegheny.
Originally Posted by J Class:
All right Lionel,
We've been waiting long enough. It's time to do the N&W J 611 justice and give all her fans what we've been waiting patiently for - a full-blown Vision line product. One that rivals the recent Big Boy. How about the locomotive, tender and auxillary tender together, with whistle steam and one additional steam effect, like the cylinder effect that's so prominent. Speakers in both tenders to get the great sound that's in the Big Boy. And please skip the depleting coal load. Go ahead and ask $2999 MSRP and let the pre-orders roll in. I'm tired of waiting - I need this train!
While you're at it, a legacy version of the 1218 and 2156 (with whistle steam, of course) would be much appreciated, too.
Thanks so much.
We've been waiting long enough. It's time to do the N&W J 611 justice and give all her fans what we've been waiting patiently for - a full-blown Vision line product. One that rivals the recent Big Boy. How about the locomotive, tender and auxillary tender together, with whistle steam and one additional steam effect, like the cylinder effect that's so prominent. Speakers in both tenders to get the great sound that's in the Big Boy. And please skip the depleting coal load. Go ahead and ask $2999 MSRP and let the pre-orders roll in. I'm tired of waiting - I need this train!
While you're at it, a legacy version of the 1218 and 2156 (with whistle steam, of course) would be much appreciated, too.
Thanks so much.
As much as I love my NW Js (I own 3 including RK, Premier and Legacy) the J has been done so very many times that I for one have zero interest in yet another rendition of it, even a VL version. Really hoping for an Allegheny (surprise surprise considering my VL Allegheny thread from a few months back!) with all the visible running gear, the sheer size and, if they do it right, crazy detail. Hoping it has cylinder steam effects. Not done enough and such a prototypical and cool smoke feature.
Peter
Originally Posted by Swafford:
Union Pacific 3-Unit Gas Turbine.........................
MTH has already done this several times. Everyone who wants one has one or has access to one.
I still think the swinging bell is the greatest EVER vision line feature. Bring it back.
some other ideas for steamers:
1.cloth the awnings and curtains for the cab
2. A set of 'premium' figures specifically for the engine. Maybe an engineer and fireman figures in a few different poses, so they can maybe snap in And out of the cab seats? One pose seated in the cab, remove that and add a figure in the same outfit oiling the loco.. Ect.
3. Include a framed picture of the engine being duplicated with a printed out history of the locomotive.
Originally Posted by Swafford:
Vision Line GP40-2 would be awesome! The are many road names to offer!
Regards,
Swafford
I would absolutely love a GP40-2, but in my opinion it's not a very good VL candidate. Just do a good job on a regular product line. There isn't really anything special you could do with it.
Originally Posted by Swafford:
Union Pacific 3-Unit Gas Turbine.........................
I'm a UP guy so I would probably be suckered into this if Lionel made it; What I'm wondering is just what cool stuff you envision this bad boy to have? The VL Centipede was really cool to but not really worth having in VL as stated earlier in this thread. Diesels seem to be at a disadvantage with dreaming of Visionline. As a steam guy I really don't know what you diesel guys pine after in your locomotives. I loved the Gensets and wanted one just because of the trick three smoke units.
Originally Posted by ES44AC:
Originally Posted by BigBoy4014:
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What is that second engine??
First engine is a PRR Q-2 and the second one is a PRR Q-1 Prototype.
Originally Posted by david1:
Lets have something new, like a UP mountain, or something from the early part of the 20 th century, maybe a set with scale cars. How about a NYC 2-6-6-2, the only articulated the NYC owned.
Make it reasonable and not in the $2900+ range, keep it in the $1400-$1900 range and they will sell. Any higher, keep them.
I'll second that as I'm sure the "other two" people who want one would as well.....
.....They could make extra individual road specific or un-decorated Vision Line Vandy Tenders too as a nifty way to upgrade engines.
Ahhhh.....the Vision line wish list......seems like the last one was just weeks ago......um...wait a minute.......
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I agree. I really like the cotton belt pictured, but Vision stuff needs a gimmick like the depleting coal load or the charging/discharging lights. Just make a regular scale version gp40-2
Originally Posted by Will Ebbert:
I would absolutely love a GP40-2, but in my opinion it's not a very good VL candidate. Just do a good job on a regular product line. There isn't really anything special you could do with it.
Something that can be offered with a Canadian railroad (Like the ES44 was). Not that I'll be able to get one though 
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But there's a chance.
Allegheny....Allegheny....Allegheny.....
and some sound equipped VL coal cars that creak, groan, screech
Originally Posted by Nick PghTrainFanatic:
For all the Pennsy fans and myself alike.....the prr t1 duplex or prr s1 duplex might make good candidates as well! I think these would appeal to a larger crowd and the molds are screaming to be used again! 
i would agree but we need a Q1 which has only been done by Sunset some time ago. I had an unstreamlined version that I sold ( me big dummy) and now can't find one for love or money ( or is it love nor money).
Originally Posted by Dustin:
Originally Posted by ES44AC:
Originally Posted by BigBoy4014:
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What is that second engine??
First engine is a PRR Q-2 and the second one is a PRR Q-1 Prototype.
yes, notice the cylinder in the back instead of mid ship like on the Q2.
Thank you for the picture
One with the proposed matching vista dome cars (in gleaming 18" aluminum) would have sold out! MTH has run it twice, yet still without the matching passenger cars.
I would love to see the M1 turbine! That thing is so big and powerful looking: amazing. Of course, lets try to keep it as low cost as possible for us people that want Vision Line but don't have $2999.99 or $3999.99 to spare! 
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by Harry's Trains:
Originally Posted by J Daddy:
The Allegheny is a no-brainer. Long over due.
However I was hoping Lionel would break their re-release strategy and maybe do something spectacular?
Like the C&O M1 steam turbine...
I would love to see the M1 turbine! That thing is so big and powerful looking: amazing. Of course, lets try to keep it as low cost as possible for us people that want Vision Line but don't have $2999.99 or $3999.99 to spare!
I seem to recall it took MTH a long time to unload their C&O turbines for far less.
Rusty
C'mon guys.. Haven't you had enough VL steamers?? And for sure does anyone really think they should make some one of a kind hunk of metal that a whole 8 people really want?!?
Let me ask.. what was and still is Lionel's best seller of all times???
You all know... the Santa Fe F3 ... its time to make the Vision line F3 that is the be all end all of all of them... good bye Atlas... see ya 3rd rail .. MTwho??
Lionel is going to show you how it's done!
Now come on LIONEL... this has been your flagship model as much as any steamer you ever made. Time to step up.. take a look at what Atlas and 3rd rail are doing ... and charging!!
Be like that little engine.." I think I can.. I think I can.."
Originally Posted by RD:
C'mon guys.. Haven't you had enough VL steamers?? And for sure does anyone really think they should make some one of a kind hunk of metal that a whole 8 people really want?!?
Let me ask.. what was and still is Lionel's best seller of all times???
You all know... the Santa Fe F3 ... its time to make the Vision line F3 that is the be all end all of all of them... good bye Atlas... see ya 3rd rail .. MTwho??
Lionel is going to show you how it's done!
Really? With that "China Drive" set-up?
Now come on LIONEL... this has been your flagship model as much as any steamer you ever made. Time to step up.. take a look at what Atlas and 3rd rail are doing ... and charging!!
Be like that little engine.." I think I can.. I think I can.."
The problem with diesels and VL is that it is hard to put a never-before-seen feature into a diesel. With steam, you just add some holes and tubing and you have whistle steam, but what do you do in a diesel? Die cast? Although a die cast F3 would be nice, what makes it a VL product and not just a nice diesel?
Large steam engines, duplexes and articulated designs lend themselves as good candidates for a Lionel VL potentials. They commonly have many moving parts, big tenders, room for many speakers and gadgets and so on. Perhaps the only negative may be the need for an 0-72 track, but the VL BB has shown this to be a minor issue to most of its buyers...
I would like to see a PRR Q1 in streamlined and non streamlined, they can easily make a single mold for both with "add ons" and hence offer two products in one casting.
Cylinder blow down "DENSE" steam is a must!
Steam whistle is of course a standard by now, but we need larger smoke units reservoirs and better quality fan motors!
I hope this time Lionel goes for finer scale details, not the "exaggerated sized rails and so on" I see on the VL BB..
Union pacific 884
Originally Posted by xxl:
Union pacific 884
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Originally Posted by BigBoy4014:
Large steam engines, duplexes and articulated designs lend themselves as good candidates for a Lionel VL potentials. They commonly have many moving parts, big tenders, room for many speakers and gadgets and so on. Perhaps the only negative may be the need for an 0-72 track, but the VL BB has shown this to be a minor issue to most of its buyers...
I would like to see a PRR Q1 in streamlined and non streamlined, they can easily make a single mold for both with "add ons" and hence offer two products in one casting.
Cylinder blow down "DENSE" steam is a must!
Steam whistle is of course a standard by now, but we need larger smoke units reservoirs and better quality fan motors!
I hope this time Lionel goes for finer scale details, not the "exaggerated sized rails and so on" I see on the VL BB..
and it's all been done a few times over... it's time for something new and different...
Originally Posted by RD:
C'mon guys.. Haven't you had enough VL steamers?? And for sure does anyone really think they should make some one of a kind hunk of metal that a whole 8 people really want?!?
Let me ask.. what was and still is Lionel's best seller of all times???
You all know... the Santa Fe F3 ... its time to make the Vision line F3 that is the be all end all of all of them... good bye Atlas... see ya 3rd rail .. MTwho??
Lionel is going to show you how it's done!
Now come on LIONEL... this has been your flagship model as much as any steamer you ever made. Time to step up.. take a look at what Atlas and 3rd rail are doing ... and charging!!
Be like that little engine.." I think I can.. I think I can.."
I would still love a VL Allegheny!!! 
How about doing a Vision Line Set? The Strasburg #90 Decapod and maybe two closed passenger coaches, one open passenger coach and a dinning car. The Decapod will have smoke, whistle smoke, a swinging bell. The passenger cars and dinner will have people (full crew and full passengers), dinner has smoke and sounds. All scale of course. I'd pay $2000 for that.
It would fit the Vision Line mission statement of never done equipment and talk about being unique. Nothing is unique about F units or GP 40s or diesels.....I may of gone too far.
JohnB
>>I would still love a VL Allegheny!!!<<<<
To be a VL Alegheny it would need to be equipped with a feature not previously available on any engine.
Other then whistle & dynamo smoke, the super detailed JLC Allegheny had just about everything anyone would want including 4 chuffs and RS5. Its a sleeper...
MY vote goes to a VL Triplex
Joe
Originally Posted by JC642:
>>I would still love a VL Allegheny!!!<<<<
To be a VL Alegheny it would need to be equipped with a feature not previously available on any engine.
Other then whistle & dynamo smoke, the super detailed JLC Allegheny had just about everything anyone would want including 4 chuffs and RS5. Its a sleeper...
MY vote goes to a VL Triplex
Joe
If you build it, they will come.
Allegheny
Originally Posted by NYC Fan:
I would love a Vision Line, or at least Legacy, unstreamlined NYC J3a Hudson like they did for the 50th Anniversary Set, cataloged 13 years ago.
Right on!
Originally Posted by Scrapiron Scher:
Jon 'You know who' spends all his research time working Ipad apps
Gee, shame on Jon for trying to make Lionel Trains technologically relevant for the next generation of hobbyists 
I would love a Triplex...!!! Russian iron
Gotta have depleting coal load, whistle steam, tender exhaust steam, swinging bell, and all sounds on BB plus an new sound effect . with VL coal cars
Dynamo steam is a great effect too and would be icing on the cake.
I think an Alleghany is more likely as it is the easiest for lionel to produce. Take the JLC tooling drill some holes for effects and spent the time working on internals.
They got my money if for either. It is an absolute must for more VL cars to match though.
Gotta have depleting coal load, whistle steam, tender exhaust steam, swinging bell, and all sounds on BB plus an new sound effect . with VL coal cars
Dynamo steam is a great effect too and would be icing on the cake.
I think an Alleghany is more likely as it is the easiest for lionel to produce. Take the JLC tooling drill some holes for effects and spent the time working on internals.
They got my money if for either. It is an absolute must for more VL cars to match though.
If it's over 2k joe stays away . The visionline bigboy is the most I will ever pay for a train .
Originally Posted by RD:
C'mon guys.. Haven't you had enough VL steamers?? And for sure does anyone really think they should make some one of a kind hunk of metal that a whole 8 people really want?!?
Let me ask.. what was and still is Lionel's best seller of all times???
You all know... the Santa Fe F3 ... its time to make the Vision line F3 that is the be all end all of all of them... good bye Atlas... see ya 3rd rail .. MTwho??
Lionel is going to show you how it's done!
Now come on LIONEL... this has been your flagship model as much as any steamer you ever made. Time to step up.. take a look at what Atlas and 3rd rail are doing ... and charging!!
Be like that little engine.." I think I can.. I think I can.."
Nope...VL steamers are the best thing going. However I would like A UP F3 ABBA unit. Its just hard pressed for me to say what the VL line would do to improve upon a really nice scale legacy unit. Give me at least two powered units with sound and smoke on all of them, detail with enough breakable stuff so it so that its not suitable for children and I'm happy. Lionel can keep the spinning fan blades. I'm not a diesel guy but what else should I want on an F3 or any diesel for that matter?
Originally Posted by Winston:
"I'm not a diesel guy but what else should I want on an F3 or any diesel for that matter?"
> A waving engineer.
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