Thoughts on K-Line Semi-Scale Steam sound conversion

MSRP is $40 and $45.  Power board is common, and K-Line used the generic RS 4.0 steam.  So your looking at around $85 or less to do this.  G

Captain,

   We have both boards you need, total to include shipping $71.00. If you decide to upgrade I would consider using ERR sounds. The price of the ERR RS is  $79.95 but your getting rail sounds equivalent to 5.0. If you decide to use RS 5.0 you will have to solder the wires which is no big deal, the RS 4 are plug and play.

Bill 

I agree with Bill unless you find someone with the RS4 boards used really cheap.  You'll like the RS5 sound base much better, much higher quality.

Okay, so soldering what wires? That is where I am confused with the ERR board.

Bill is talking about serial data.  The engine is set up for modular plug in RS boards, but if you go with ERR it is a stand alone board.  G

So what would I solder or tie into? Maybe I am not clear in my question since I am not clear on how I would use/install the ERR board. Thanks!

Jeff,  Go to ERR web and down load the instruction manual for the Sound product.

Basically you will gut the tender of the Lionel mother board and sound parts.  Then do a fresh install of the ERR sound board into the tender.  You probably can keep the original speaker.  The original tether is kept and it has to be wired up to the new ERR board.

Or you search Lionel's part site and choose RS 4.0 or RS 5.0 sound set you think you would like and then it is just plugging into the existing mother board and possibly moving some jumpers on the board.  Instructions for that are on Lionel's Website.

G

Jeff,

    Does your tender have all the Tmcc  components to include the DCDR located in the tender, if so all you will need to do is solder the AC Hot and Grd, serial and speaker wires or use wire nuts. The serial wire is purple. That wire needs to be soldered to pin 24 of the R2LC or pin 10 on the motherboard were the railsound board plugs in. The black wire next to the purple is a ground. Any other questions just ask.

Bill

Bill

Yes, all of the TMCC components are in the tender. I will take a picture and send it tonight.

Jeff,

   No helpful thoughts for you since I live in a prewar world...can your you post some pictures when everything is put back together?

Tom

This one?

http://www.lionel.com/Products...neID=&CatalogId=

Chuck, that's the old ERR RS Commander with RS4 boards.  AFAIK, you still can't buy the RS5 boards from Lionel without a trade-in.  You can buy the blank RS5 PCB, but not the sound chips.

The new ERR RS Commander single board product is RS5 based, but you are limited to the sound sets that ERR have listed on their site.

So this ERR one is sort of RS 5?

http://www.electricrr.com/RailSoundCommander.htm

Here is the Lionel Instruction.  Authorized tech can get the boards I believe.  G

Chuck,

   I like to call it RS 4.9 

Bill

I haven't gotten one of these yet. Do they have audible chatter?

Interesting part number on the Lionel one in that it has a 5 in it. That kind of made me think RS5, but the picture says much more in the opposite way. Assuming the pictures are accurate.

I've found finding much of the tmcc-legacy info like pulling teeth as they say. It all seems to be out there...somewhere.

They have the audible cab talk, and also the various scenarios if you hit AUX1 before the tower or cab talk key.

Hello Bill,

Can you send me a PayPal invoice for the boards. Plug and play is going to work the best.

Thanks,

Jeff

Jeff