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I thought I knew what I had but now I am even more confused. Haha.  Below is a list of tinplate cars and engines that I have, these were my fathers as a kid.  I am trying to identify what belongs with what (all have latch couplers). We are missing an engine and are trying to figure out what it could have been based on what remains.  One or two cars may be missing and I am sure the dump or the lumber car could have been separate sale.  Interested to hear your opinions on this tinplate puzzle.  

 

Streamline 1688/2689 coffin tender

229/2224w Lionel Lines tender

 

1682 NYC caboose

1682 Lionel Lines caboose

2672 PRR eastern div caboose, tuscan plastic body

 

(2) 2677 Lionel Lines gondolas

(1) 1680 Shell tanker

(2) 1679 Baby Ruth cars

(1) 2679 Baby Ruth

(2) 3659 dump cars

(1) 3651 lumber dump

 

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The sets using the 224 were Set 843W: 224, 2812X, 2755, 3651, 2757

Set 845W: 224, 2660, 2757, 2758, 3651, 3659, both from 1941.  This is only from Doyle's book, as I don't have the Greenberg to cross check.  And what is the mention of a Plastic Shell referring to.  If it is the tender that it references, then the shell got swapped, as the 2224 is a Die Cast Tender only.  Never in Plastic.  The 1689/2689 are tinplate.

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That is one book I would love to have, but the price is astronomical if you are referring to Vol. II with the 753 loco on the cover.  I am just getting into Prewar, slowly, as everything I had from my early childhood, and the past 7-8 years has been PW Steam.  I recently restored two 1688E and 1689W's, have one 258 (Gunmetal) done, and need some more parts for the other 258 (Black) that needs a 1689 tender.  Also have three 1681's I am restoring (need stripping and paint mostly).  It's fun resurrecting someone elses derelicts and bringing them back to life.

 

Guess what, I stand corrected with the plastic shell.  I have a file I created awhile ago, listing all the Prewar Tenders and what Loco they were used with.  The 2224T/2224W die-cast was issued 1939-1940, the plastic was issued 1941-1942, and only with the 224/E locomotive.

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What I listed is the extent of the tinplate we have, most everything else is postwar or modern.  The cars and engines are not in the best shape, as they were subject to multiple floods and I guess the importance of cleaning them up afterwards became less and less important as the years went by - the shell on the 2224 tender was caked solid with mud.

 

Fortunately, when we started setting up our permanent layout about five years ago, I intentionally left a loop without any switches or cross-overs so we can run just about anything on that no matter what it's age.  The slider pickups on the 1688 do not like fastrack switches at all, the 229 looks a little uncomfortable but it can make it.  

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