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Hi Folks,
I need some info on setting up control panel turnout indicator lights.

I'm sure the topic has been covered before... I did a search but couldn't find the info needed.

I'm setting up a pair of Ross STDG turnouts which have DC powered switch machines. Of course, the machines are only powered when needed by a momentary DPDT switch and when unpowered the turnouts do not display an indicator light.

So what I need is green/red indicator lights on the control panel to identify which way the turnouts are aligned. I'm assuming these might be LED and can be powered by the same 12v DC source that powers the switch machines. I'm also guessing a relay tripped by the toggle switch would cycle the lights...

Can anybody point me in the direction of a wiring schematic for this?

Thanks,
Bert
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Well I looked around a lot on Youtube doing research when I built ours. I don't know a thing about electrical work but managed to do this one. Keep in mind however, that I used Tortoise Switch machines so your wiring will be different than mine. I used bi-polar LEDS, but you could use 2 different colored LED's, 5mm, red and green.

 

Several of the electrical gurus around here will chime in with instructions. Fortunately because we were already using the Tortoise machines, that made the wiring much easier for me because I didn't have to wire any diodes to the LED's. I chose bi-polar yellow/green for a couple reasons that I explain in the video. Most panels I've seen use a red and a green LED. Just personal preference. 

 

 

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If I understand your situation, you are not using the Tortoise and do not have any sensors or feedback that indicates actual turnout position. So taking the liberty of re-stating this as a generic problem, you have two wires that occasionally but only momentarily have +12V DC or -12V DC on them.  You want a method that remembers the most recent polarity using a red and green indicator. 

 

One alternative would be a 12V single-coil latching relay (~$2), a bi-color LED (~25 cents), and a current-limiting resistor for the LED (~10 cents).  The two wires would hook up to the relay coil (as well as to the switch machine).  The switched relay contacts would direct +12V to one or the other LED color via the resistor to limit the current.

For those modelers using the MTH RealTrax turnouts there is a very easy way to provide turnout indication on a separate control panel.  I have an annunciator panel which shows the condition of all turnouts on my layout.  See attachment. The red and green LEDs are wired back to each pair of MTH controllers. A diode and resistor are needed for each LED. The yellow LEDs show block power.

 

On my control system I have 3 ways to control my turnouts:

1. Manually using the MTH supplied controllers

2. Manually using separate momentary pushbuttons mounted on a separate panel

3. Directly using the MTH DCS controller and MTH AIUs.

 

I can use any one of these methods for my layout.

 

Note: I have built an MTH turnout test board which I use to demonstrate the use of the MTH RealTrax turnout. My turnouts all use separate accessory power (not track power).

 

See attachment for a photo of my turnout test board showing a separate LED indicator board with red and green momentary pushbuttons.

 

 

 

Dispatch Board

MTH turnout board

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  • Dispatch Board
  • MTH turnout board

Dale H covered this in a recent post.  It was a very clever circuit that used a capacitor to power the solenoid.  Using this method it prevented the switch motors from being over powered and burning out.  As I recall it did not used  momentary or center off switches so you could use the position of the handle to indicate the direction of the switch.

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