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I have an upcoming project where the tender is large enough to fit twin 50mm speakers. I'm wondering if twin 50mm speakers (two 8ohm speakers wired in parallel) will give a sound improvement over a single 4ohm 50mm speaker. I'm just curious if the PS3 steam sound files have enough base to benefit from twin speakers. Has anyone tried it?

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the onboard amp seems to be the limit to me. I put 2 speakers in an engine and it sounded about the same to me overall.

Changing the quality to a better speaker produced the best results for me so far. That was in a 3rd Rail Niagara.

I have to imagine that it's different with each engine. Getting the best results with the veranda type tender has eluded me so far. I need to create a better chamber to house the speaker in that tender. I believe that will help get better results.

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I'll be working with an ATSF 25K gallon oil tender for this project. It's the really large one used behind 2900 class 4-8-4s and 5011 class 2-10-4s, so plenty of room for twin 50mm speakers. I've been using this Visaton 4ohm speaker with upgrades and it gives really nice, clear, sound reproduction:

FRWS 5 - 4 OHM Visaton GmbH & Co. KG | Audio Products | DigiKey

The 8ohm version has the same specs, so I'm curious if two of them in parallel will give better sound reproduction.

FRWS 5 - 8 OHM Visaton GmbH & Co. KG | Audio Products | DigiKey

It should do a better low end.

I put 2 8ohm speakers into a one gauge ES44ACH evo I built. One speaker in the custom fuel tank firing down, and one in the radiator section firing up. Overall it sounds like my others.

I haven't done a dual speaker in a tender so I shouldn't have stated what I did. Go for it!

I put a single Peerless 4 ohm into that 3rd Rail Niagara and it sounds great.

I studied work by Ray Manley on his one gauge installs achieving better low end using those (brand) speakers you mention above. It's a decent speaker at a decent price. I've used them (3.5" ? version) in a couple of one gauge engines so far.

I believe creating a proper bass chamber is very important.

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I normally get better sound with two speakers in the tender, and I've used the FRWS 5 - 8 OHM with good results, so I suspect two of the similar 4 ohm speakers would kick butt.

Well two 8ohm versions in parallel to get 4ohms, but yes I'll give it a try.

These ATSF 25K gallon tenders have plenty of room for twin 50mm speakers. If it works in my latest project I'll probably go back and retrofit the other's I've done.

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@Lou1985 posted:

Well two 8ohm versions in parallel to get 4ohms, but yes I'll give it a try.

NO!  I was saying the two of the four ohm in series would be the ticket.  Don't put 4 ohms on the Lionel sound boards, they overheat.

I normally get better sound with two speakers in the tender, and I've used the FRWS 5 - 8 OHM with good results, so I suspect two of the similar 4 ohm speakers would kick butt.

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