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Good evening everyone,

 

I've been working on this project for a while now and It's just about finished.So I thought I would share it with my fellow forum member's. The size of the water wheel is 5 inches in diameter and 1 inch wide, the material used to build it is 1/8 inch masonite and basswood strips. The motor is DC and will run on 4.5 to 12 volts. To attach the motor to the wheel I just used 1/4 inch threaded rod with 1/4 inch nuts. In this video the water wheel is running with 9 volts going to it, the motor sounds loud on the video but it sounds fine in person. The motor will be hidden in a building, hope you all enjoy.

 

Special thanks goes to Ben from the NJHirailers, I purchased the motor from him

Special thanks also goes to Jim Policastro, he helped me with info on  the construction and materials  of the wheel .



Thanks, Alex

 

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Originally Posted by Dave Allen:

Nice project Alex, it gives me ideas. I'm surprised there is not a water wheel accessory already.

 
     Yes, very nice work, Alex.
     Dave, I recall a motorized grist mill with water three decades ago made of plastic and even had a pump pump that circulate water. Think it was made by Pola or Faller. Possibly even Revell. Very, very pricey back then.Price plus limited availability made it quite rare. I wonder what ever became of both the molds used to make it as well as the company that manufactured it.
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Thanks to all of you

 

Jim, I can't wait to see it installed on your layout

Mike, it was a lot of work, but still a lot of fun to build

Joe, Thanks and it was great to meet you at trainstock

Dave, my great friend thanks, hope to see you sometime soon

Chris, Thanks it was great also to meet you at trainstock

Kenn thanks very much

Terry,thanks very much

Greg, hope all is well, and thanks

Keith thanks, looking forward to your next project

Kevin thanks very much

 

Alex

Alex, once again great craftmanship..thanks for sharing...looking forward to the final "product"
 
 
Originally Posted by ogaugeguy:
Originally Posted by Dave Allen:

Nice project Alex, it gives me ideas. I'm surprised there is not a water wheel accessory already.

 
     Yes, very nice work, Alex.
     Dave, I recall a motorized grist mill with water three decades ago made of plastic and even had a pump pump that circulate water. Think it was made by Pola or Faller. Possibly even Revell. Very, very pricey back then.Price plus limited availability made it quite rare. I wonder what ever became of both the molds used to make it as well as the company that manufactured it.
Kenn

 

 

 

Not to hijack Alex thread, but Faller still make a water powered watermill (HO only) and as a company they doing good..sadly still nothing in 0 scale...

Their 2013 400+ pages english catalog can be downloaded in PDF (170MB..so take time)

http://faller.de/xs_db/DOKUMEN..._Katalog_2013_GB.pdf

 

 I highly recommend a slow moving motor by Hankscraft Motors. It gives exactly the right speed you might want and runs on DC. I hooked mine up to a 6 volt lantern battery and I had two running off the same battery. They are extremely quiet and no transformer power is needed. I had one running my mill wheel and another with a cam on it causing the flour sack load to go up and down.

Here is their web site: http://www.hmimotors.com/New_Pages/3440.htm

I am including a picture of the motor and then a video of the working mill.

 

 

Rick

 

 

 

 

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Thanks to all of you

 

Jim thanks for all of your help, looking forward to seeing yours motorized

Todd thanks for the wonderful words.

Lafondue thanks for the very kind words.

Jeff T, thank you.

Jeff (pennsy484) thanks, there's no gear work, it's a direct connection, but you can adjust the volts going in. So less volts will slow it down.

Don thanks, looking forward to seeing progress photos of your layout

Alan thanks for your wonderful words, would that shipping address be yours LOL LOL

Rick, very nice water wheel and a very nice layout, thanks for the info.

Strogey thanks, and nice idea.

Dewey thanks, I will be making  some soon available for forum members.

 

Thanks, Alex

Keep in mind with that slow speed, high torque configuration, if the wheel jams, there is an issue. I experienced the same issue with my Diamond Scale TT drive system applied to a 50:1 worm gear. Pretty good chance the motor/drive system will not stop when jammed. Something has to give.   Great looking water wheel

Thank you, 

Mike.

Originally Posted by Ranger Rick:

Andre.....did you see your pulley working again???? I do wish you would produce them again. It did add a great deal to that scene.

Rick!

I have the tools and material, I am not producing them constantly, but I have everything to make them!

I really like what you did with the barn!

Andre.

Thanks to all,

 

Russell thanks, if you need any help just let me know.

Jeff thanks for the kind words

Ben thanks again for the help with the motor

Spence I thank you very much for the wonderful words

Mike CT thanks for the nice words, and great info

Andre thanks, and I really like your idea

Brian thanks your words mean a lot to me, and I enjoy sharing my idea's with all of you.

 

Thanks again, Alex

Rick,  I love your layout and the Grist mill with the pulling rope.  How was that accomplished with the motor?  any pics on your design of this?   Also, did you buy the building or Scratch Build it.  I really like that.  super cool.  Also, do you have a youtube channel with your vids because those are really cool also.! 
Chris
 
 
Originally Posted by Ranger Rick:

 I highly recommend a slow moving motor by Hankscraft Motors. It gives exactly the right speed you might want and runs on DC. I hooked mine up to a 6 volt lantern battery and I had two running off the same battery. They are extremely quiet and no transformer power is needed. I had one running my mill wheel and another with a cam on it causing the flour sack load to go up and down.

Here is their web site: http://www.hmimotors.com/New_Pages/3440.htm

I am including a picture of the motor and then a video of the working mill.

 

 

Rick

 

 

 

 

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Hi Chris, thank you. I am very much a novice as compared to many on this forum. That mill, as is almost all of the buildings on the layout, is a scratch build. I looked at pictures on the internet of real mills and of kits and used those as a template. On a teacher's/coach's salary, I found I had to cut corners somewhere (could not afford kits, the only kit is the gas station) and buildings was an obvious place. (Other scratch builds were the train station, Ranger Rick's General Store, freight station, Hamlin Coal Company, the refining and fill station, the oil derrick, the winery, the John Deere tractor store). The mill was my first try at scratch build and I did that a year before I started my layout. The pallet was originally just held up by a hook with no motion. Then I saw a pulley system built by a forum member, AG, (http://s115.beta.photobucket.c...0models/Brassdetails)and I bought one. It is a working pulley. I strung a line attached to the pallet through the pulley and down through the table and fastened it to a support. To make it move up and down, I rigged one of the slow motion motors I pictured and attached an oblong egg shaped piece of wood to it and placed that piece of wood adjacent to the line. As the motor turns, the longer part of the wood pushes against the string causing the pallet to rise. 

 

Unfortunately with all of the neat things that AG is making now, the pulley system is not currently on the list. I am sure it was a pain to make, but he did an excellent job. 

 

As for any video, I am not a youtube guru, but there are some videos up. If you check out Raccoon Creek Scenic Railroad, the layout has been on the Atlanta Piedmont Pilgrimage the past few years and several people have posted videos of it, the most recent being this past fall. It has also been chosen to be on the tour of layouts (one of 50 of all gauges) this summer for the NMRA convention that is being held in Atlanta.

 

Some of the buildings you will see on the layout are card stock buildings that turned out great (Willie's Hardware, maintenance shed, out house, scale station). I add strip wood and other things to give them dimension...lights too. Well, that was probably more than you wanted. Thank you again.

 

Rick

Originally Posted by Chris D:

alex, that waterwheel setup is really cool.  I thought of an MTH grainery building, but Rick posted up a nice building also.  what is your plans?  very nice as always

Chris

Hi Chris thanks for the kind words, this water wheel is for a fellow forum member, he will post photo's of it installed in a few days. As for the Mth grainery building that's the same idea I had. I'm in the process of building another water wheel and I'm going to install it in a grainery building. I will weather the building and the water wheel, then post finished photos here.

 

Ranger Rick, I love your scratch buildings, they came out awesome.

 

Alex

Good job!  I have 2 kitbashed and 1 scratchbuilt mills, and just got in today the MTH "Granary" that I have been anxious to kitbash (clean up the roof, fill in some

doors) into a mill with a waterwheel, since I first saw it in a catalog. None of mine are powered, the tallest wheel is 9 1/2", (38 scale feet), but all rotate on axles.  It is no mean feat to get these balanced and wobble free.  I thought I saw somewhere an HO kit for a waterwheel, that might have worked for a small O scale one,  but could not track it down, so had to scratchbuild the three so far, smallest being widest, tallest is the most narrow.  They improved with practice.

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