Weekend tinplate photos 📸 and videos 📽 7/26/19!

From 1936 - the uncatalogued American Flyer Comet Set 992-RT

1936 Pamphlet Illustration 

The Set

Was getting worried. I didn't see many other posts in the forum either. Fweh. 

George

The regulars must be out there boating, fishing or surfing!  ☺

Some CR (Rossignol) accessories to be used on a station platform, a warning bell and a tinplate bench:

The bench is large enough to go with Standard Gauge while CR never made trains larger than 0 gauge, so it looks a bit strange next to the CR train stop (Halte):

Regards

Fred

Chris Lonero posted:

Let’s see your tinplate! 

Love it Chris! Where did u find plane and figure?

Joe Gozzo

Robert S. Butler posted:

From 1936 - the uncatalogued American Flyer Comet Set 992-RT

1936 Pamphlet Illustration 

The Set

Very classy set!

George S posted:

Was getting worried. I didn't see many other posts in the forum either. Fweh. 

George

They are all at the Gilroy Garlic Festival!😁👍

Sorry Art, vacancy time actually and no many great toy trains finds.....

Just some new JEP pieces, a classic JEP box cab, or "boite à sel" in french, pleasant color variation, unfortunately has a repainted roof but not too bad, it will replace a less nice one. Iis a 1935 model.

And i also got a nice first model coach to compete the first model of the "Golden Arrow" train, it is certainly the best looking french Pullman of the thirties.

Have a nice weekend and vacancy time,   Daniel

FRED: Wish I had that NICE bench for my LGB seated figures!

OK, not exactly tinplate, but I photographed the UP 4014 Big Boy as it steamed through Kenosha County, WI this morning.  

I waited at a rural crossing for about 1.5 hours before it steamed by.  The only schedule I had was that it was leaving the Butler, WI Yard in the Milwaukee area at 8 am.  I got to the crossing at around 8:15 am and a freight went by going northbound a few minutes later.  The Big Boy did not make it to the crossing I was at until about 9:50 am.  It went by at speed of c. 50 to 55 mph.

NWL

The last weeks, I have found a lot of small Karl Bub coaches. Here my collection of them.

Greetings

Arne

left hand rule?

DANIEL: NICE steeple cab e-lok! ARNE: NICE collection of shorties!

Jim Z posted:

"Just bomb ze RED trains"

Here is a shot of a vintage tinplate bi-plane!

I love that biplane! I have been trying to find an A.F airplane for a long time and they are always in rough condition, over priced, or both. I've seen a number of their monoplanes, but never the biplane. That is in wonderful condition.

Eric

TCA, LCCA, Ives Train Society 

chug posted:

I love that biplane! I have been trying to find an A.F airplane for a long time and they are always in rough condition, over priced, or both. I've seen a number of their monoplanes, but never the biplane. That is in wonderful condition.

Eric

TCA, LCCA, Ives Train Society 

I have the other 3 Flyer airplanes as well.

NWL

COOL planes!

Robert S. Butler posted:

From 1936 - the uncatalogued American Flyer Comet Set 992-RT

1936 Pamphlet Illustration 

The Set

I have one of the leftover 9900 Zephyrs that were made from the double heading Comet tin work. Made towards the end of production in '38. I see some of the 4 window Zephyr coaches come up occasionally but the tail end locos are hard to find. Tail end loco in the top left of the photo without vestibule. 

sncf231e posted:

Some CR (Rossignol) accessories to be used on a station platform, a warning bell and a tinplate bench:

The bench is large enough to go with Standard Gauge while CR never made trains larger than 0 gauge, so it looks a bit strange next to the CR train stop (Halte):

Regards

Fred

The bell looks like Mr. Roboto! Great pieces.

Arne, you have a larger collection of Bub short coaches than exists in any collections on this side of the pond, I think, this leads me to wonder how many different ones they actually produced. 

Here is my most recent addition to the Dorfan portion of the collection.

I have no good reason for adding anything to the collection. In fact I am in the process of packing up the collection as we are preparing to move further north. (Which explains my absence the last few weeks.) I retire in about a month and we are desperately trying to find a way to downsize our possessions and become more "nimble".  The collection will not be downsized, and in fact one of the primary considerations for a new home is that it have enough room to establish a Museum.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Been looking for one on these LCT Industrial Cranes since I saw one on the STD Gauge layout at the TCA Museum.

Steve

Nation Wide Lines posted:

OK, not exactly tinplate, but I photographed the UP 4014 Big Boy as it steamed through Kenosha County, WI this morning.  

I waited at a rural crossing for about 1.5 hours before it steamed by.  The only schedule I had was that it was leaving the Butler, WI Yard in the Milwaukee area at 8 am.  I got to the crossing at around 8:15 am and a freight went by going northbound a few minutes later.  The Big Boy did not make it to the crossing I was at until about 9:50 am.  It went by at speed of c. 50 to 55 mph.

NWL

Shoot! I’m only 15 minutes away and totally missed it! Was this on the tracks that run east of 94 by the coal fire power plant? Were you around route 158?

George

George,

It was on the tracks that run just to the east of the ones that run by the coal fire power plant.  They are the ones that run through Kenosha next to Menards (the Amtrack and Canadian Pacific tracks are the ones you were thinking of, are slightly further to the west at that point).

I was at the crossing on Highway A (7th Street) in Somers.  I was looking for a more rural crossing, with few people at it.  There were about 15 to 20 of us at the crossing.  

Did not realize you were from the SE WI or NE IL area.

NWL

Jim O'C posted:

Robert S. Butler posted:

From 1936 - the uncatalogued American Flyer Comet Set 992-RT

1936 Pamphlet Illustration 

The Set

I have one of the leftover 9900 Zephyrs that were made from the double heading Comet tin work. Made towards the end of production in '38. I see some of the 4 window Zephyr coaches come up occasionally but the tail end locos are hard to find. Tail end loco in the top left of the photo without vestibule. 

I don't believe that Flyer ever made a double end tin Zephyr, I know that I have never seen one. 

The power car without the vestibule/trailing truck is the first version of the power car, which is similar to the power car of the IC Green Diamond.  That version featured a tail car that had two trucks on it, similar to the IC Green Diamond.  This set would be from c. 1934-1935.

The later tin Zephyr sets featured the vestibule and trailing truck like the power car that you show.  These engines are similar to the tooling used on the Comet sets.  The tail car for this set is shown at the right end of the string of cars you show with no power car.  This set would be from 1936 and after.

You also show two different variations of cars.  Note that some of the cars have 6 windows per side and some of the cars have 4 windows per side.  I believe the cars with 6 windows per side are the earlier cars and the cars with 4 windows per side are the later cars.  

NWL

overlandflyer posted:

left hand rule?

I'm sure Gary knows this, but I'll explain this for the benefit of those who may be wondering why Marx recommended running their mechanical trains in a clockwise direction.  Many Marx shells were used for both electric and mechanical trains.  The Marx electric train motors have the drive gears on the right side of the motor, so the center of the motor itself sat to the left of the center of the track.  The motor mounts were also offset so that the shell sat centered with the track... at least on the electric trains.  But, the windup motors don't have drive gears on the outside of the motor, and the motor actually sits centered on the track.  Since the rear motor mount was part of the shell, and the same motor mount was used in the electric and mechanical trains, this means that the center of the shell actually sits slightly to the right of the center of the track when a mechanical motor is installed in it.  Marx even offset the front crossmember on (most) of the mechanical motors to somewhat match the offset in the rear motor mount.  By running the train in a clockwise direction (as viewed from above), the shell was offset to the inside of the track, making it somewhat less likely to roll over in the curves... especially at the high speeds that the mechanical trains run.  Running it in the counter-clockwise direction makes them a bit more prone to roll over in the curves, since the weight would be slightly biased to the outside of the curve.

Now, in typical Marx fashion... not all mechanicals have the motor off center in the body.  But, that is a discussion for another time!

Maybe this will help.

  The set below is a boxed set with the ID number 843RCT

  The set is complete.  The power car has a silver painted nose while the rest of the train is lithographed tin.

  All of the components came in separate cardboard sleeves.  The coaches are #584

  and the observation is #555

  It's worth noting the observation has the "holdover" punched holes and slots which served as the anchor points and switch access for the battery powered tail light on the clockwork Zephyr sets.  I can't recall ever seeing a tin lithoed Zephyr observation that didn't have these holes and slots which would suggest Flyer never changed the tooling for at least the base part of the tin lithoed Zephyr observations. 

Underside of the power car

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

Here is my most recent addition to the Dorfan portion of the collection.

I have no good reason for adding anything to the collection. In fact I am in the process of packing up the collection as we are preparing to move further north. (Which explains my absence the last few weeks.) I retire in about a month and we are desperately trying to find a way to downsize our possessions and become more "nimble".  The collection will not be downsized, and in fact one of the primary considerations for a new home is that it have enough room to establish a Museum.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

wouldn't be coming to the Buckeye State would you? Love to visit the museum....

Nice caboose...been watching for one myself.

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Been looking for one on these LCT Industrial Cranes since I saw one on the STD Gauge layout at the TCA Museum.

Steve

so I guess this was funded by the liquidation of your other collection?

in the midst of some urban reno on the layout,,,thought I would run the 392's the pennsy is a ps 2 and the blue is a regular one with whistle,,,, 

Here's the last of 10 months worth of video's I needed to clear out of the camera, Our March TCA Meet with my Lee Lines Daylight.

Steve

https://youtu.be/cKjbfPpBfQ0

Late to the party but I had a couple of new additions this week

First up a quite nice Hornby L.N.E.R. Tender  for either their No2, or No3 Locos ... which I sadly do not have an example of ( yet).

Hornby tenders of this era are pretty much loco specific and this one would have been behind the Bramham Moor( 1930 on) , Yorkshire ( 1929) or possibly earlier No2 locos ... I am not uber-anal so it will probably see some service behind one of my Lord Nelson Locos ( technically a Southern Loco) or behind a LNER No.2 Tank loco

I needs to find me a nice No3c Flying Scotsman for it

And continuing with my early Hornby obsession I also picked up a rather nice Midland M3(?) locomotive and tender set ... the reason for the question mark is that this particular set up went thru quite a few changes in name and finish in a short 3 year period . It was a Hornby Printed train in 1924 ( to seperate it from the enamelled version) then in 1925 became the George the Fifth, and then in 1926 dropping the King George livery it became the "M3" in different railway liveries ... as this is fitted with a non-reversing mechanism that dates it after 1925 .. With this model Hornby leant a small lesson in that having too diverse a range of fit and finish can leave a version wallowing in the wake of the newer fancier ones ... In the end they were forced to heavily discount these to clear out the production run .. not that many survive now as although they sold over a longer period , they werent sold in huge numbers warranting numerous runs ..

https://www.brightontoymuseum....y_No.00_/_Hornby_M3)

Trainlover160 posted:

Chris Lonero posted:

Let’s see your tinplate! 

Love it Chris! Where did u find plane and figure?

Joe Gozzo

Mickey came from a small die cast plane I had and the plane I saw on the forum a while back. I can’t recall at the moment where I got it? 

Robert S. Butler posted:

From 1936 - the uncatalogued American Flyer Comet Set 992-RT

when i bought my Comet set, this snapshot was in the box...

Chris Lonero posted:

Trainlover160 posted:

Chris Lonero posted:

Let’s see your tinplate! 

Love it Chris! Where did u find plane and figure?

Joe Gozzo

Mickey came from a small die cast plane I had and the plane I saw on the forum a while back. I can’t recall at the moment where I got it? 

Looks like some that Hobby Lobby sells

Steve

Nation Wide Lines posted:

George,

It was on the tracks that run just to the east of the ones that run by the coal fire power plant.  They are the ones that run through Kenosha next to Menards (the Amtrack and Canadian Pacific tracks are the ones you were thinking of, are slightly further to the west at that point).

I was at the crossing on Highway A (7th Street) in Somers.  I was looking for a more rural crossing, with few people at it.  There were about 15 to 20 of us at the crossing.  

Did not realize you were from the SE WI or NE IL area.

NWL

I’m in Wadsworth, IL just west of the tollway. She passed through Wadsworth, too! If I did happen to go see her, I probably would have been waiting by the wrong set of tracks. I forgot about the ones to the east.

George

George S posted:

Nation Wide Lines posted:

George,

It was on the tracks that run just to the east of the ones that run by the coal fire power plant.  They are the ones that run through Kenosha next to Menards (the Amtrack and Canadian Pacific tracks are the ones you were thinking of, are slightly further to the west at that point).

I was at the crossing on Highway A (7th Street) in Somers.  I was looking for a more rural crossing, with few people at it.  There were about 15 to 20 of us at the crossing.  

Did not realize you were from the SE WI or NE IL area.

NWL

I’m in Wadsworth, IL just west of the tollway. She passed through Wadsworth, too! If I did happen to go see her, I probably would have been waiting by the wrong set of tracks. I forgot about the ones to the east.

George

It is in West Chicago on display for the weekend if you want to tour it.