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I got a wild idea to run all of my O gauge tinplate at once today (well almost all of it). I didn't get the O27 and a few cabooses on the track and may have missed a gondola. My AF 1681 gave it her best, but wasn't quite up to the task with the heavy MTH 2800 series cars added. So, I needed to bring in more power from the engine shed. Here she is! No. 1604, all twenty wheels of her!

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Here she is coming around the bend!

To facilitate this folly, I made a coupler adapter from a broken Lionel latch coupler and an extra AF hook coupler. The AF hook fits right into the Allegheny tender knuckle coupler.

George 

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George S posted:

Just won this to add to my 2800 series beer reefer collection. I was looking for the whole beer train set, but this was my favorite of the cars anyway. There are 3 more beer reefers in the set.

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Now if MTH would just ship my 2015 pre-order of the Goetz Brewing reefer. 

Is anyone aware of any 2800 series beer reefers besides the 4 in the beer train set, the Altoona, and the Fort Pitt?

George

ah ha ,,,,your the one,,,hahaha,thought about bidding since it was made down the street from me,,glad you won<"the pale stale ale ,with the foam on the bottom"

Dennis Holler posted:

IMG_3176IMG_3177IMG_3178Since George didn't let me win the Ole Frothingslosh reefer 😮 I was messing around and came up with this based off a Lionel 1719 boxcar and the side of a Bing Schlitz reefer.

I keep thinking about what Arnie has done with custom tin printing and making his own cars.  

 

Looks great Dennis! Crazy, I was thinking the same thing today! I looked around for some decals, but yours looks better. If you use glossy or satin photo paper, it will look just like litho.

I was also thinking about doing this with the American Flyer 3000 Series litho freight cars. They are almost unattainable in good shape. If I can get good photos of them, it would be doable.

Where did you get the photo of the Bing car?

George

Greg J. Turinetti posted:
Pine Creek Railroad posted:

 

GJT,

   Always wanter a Royal Blue, gray Tin!

PCRR/Dave

The #553 is a great looking engine too.

I use this photo on note cars that I had made.

I use one of my #553s to head one of my "What If...." trains.

The Scarlet Letter Carrier

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

so would that make this a grey blue,,or a blue grey,i had a royal blue,someone gave me when I was and teenage,,didn't know what it was ,dang ,wish I had that now,,,

Robert S. Butler posted:

Here you go George

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Personally, if I was going to do something like that I'd go after some of the great billboard reefer designs that Atlas has turned out...like

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Thanks Robert! Those are beautiful, including the Atlas ones. Atlas made some beer reefers too, and the Natty Boh one just sold for over $300 on eBay. That's a lot of money for some plastic that was made so recently! It's almost like Bitcoin. 

George

terry hudon posted:
George S posted:

Just won this to add to my 2800 series beer reefer collection. I was looking for the whole beer train set, but this was my favorite of the cars anyway. There are 3 more beer reefers in the set.

s-l1600

Now if MTH would just ship my 2015 pre-order of the Goetz Brewing reefer. 

Is anyone aware of any 2800 series beer reefers besides the 4 in the beer train set, the Altoona, and the Fort Pitt?

George

ah ha ,,,,your the one,,,hahaha,thought about bidding since it was made down the street from me,,glad you won<"the pale stale ale ,with the foam on the bottom"

That's right Terry, and ”Hippety-Hops Makes It Tops"! I have the eight colored Miss Frothingslosh cans to match this. You know Miss Frothingslosh "was chosen on the basis of her beauty, talent, poise, ... and quantity."

Robert S. Butler posted:

George,

  Oh yes, almost forgot - here's the Bing car - as you can see Dennis reworked the side to give it the balanced look of the

   real thing.

 Bing

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Atlas

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Awesome! That's one I really want. By the way, that Bing car was recently listed on eBay for $1200 and maybe not in as nice of condition as the one you show.

George

 One nice thing about getting to visit people and photograph some of their collection is that one eventually has a backlog of pictures of excellent examples of lots of different trains.  I've forgotten when I took the picture of the Schlitz car but it was several years ago and, to date, it is the best picture I have of the uncensored version.

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Robert S. Butler posted:

  Dennis, that's been my impression.  As I understand it far more Bing beer cars made it to U.S. shores after prohibition than before the beginning of WWI which would suggest fewer uncensored than censored.

For those of us following along and asking "What is a censored Bing beer car?" I found this from Robert.

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Here is the thread with the other cars too. Now, I really like the Pabst car!

https://ogrforum.com/...to-s-video-s-3-16-17

George

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George S posted:
Robert S. Butler posted:

  Dennis, that's been my impression.  As I understand it far more Bing beer cars made it to U.S. shores after prohibition than before the beginning of WWI which would suggest fewer uncensored than censored.

For those of us following along and asking "What is a censored Bing beer car?" I found this from Robert.

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Here is the thread with the other cars too. Now, I really like the Pabst car!

https://ogrforum.com/...to-s-video-s-3-16-17

George

I'm telling you, a 10-1/4" litho refrigerator car with this type of billboard marking would be really cool.  I doubt there would be enough of a market to make it worthwhile to create and produce some, but it would be really cool.

I haven't put in any real inquiries but some of the on line stuff for custom tin litho runs for signs is requiring 2-5,000 min in qty.  On a sheet the size of the sign, I can get 5 single car sides and ends. So if I had five different cars on the sheet, two sheets gets me 5 unique cars.  2000 sheets would mean 1000 cars of each design logo.  I can't imaging selling that many of each car.  I could probably find someone willing to do a smaller run, but still, the numbers look ugly pretty quickly.  And that does not even discuss getting permission to print the various logos....  Still it is an interesting thought.  Need to print directly to the sheet and laser cut the sides from the sheet...

Dennis Holler posted:

I haven't put in any real inquiries but some of the on line stuff for custom tin litho runs for signs is requiring 2-5,000 min in qty.  On a sheet the size of the sign, I can get 5 single car sides and ends. So if I had five different cars on the sheet, two sheets gets me 5 unique cars.  2000 sheets would mean 1000 cars of each design logo.  I can't imaging selling that many of each car.  I could probably find someone willing to do a smaller run, but still, the numbers look ugly pretty quickly.  And that does not even discuss getting permission to print the various logos....  Still it is an interesting thought.  Need to print directly to the sheet and laser cut the sides from the sheet...

I have a set of James Bond 007 beer cans. They are fakes. The set of originals would cost $14k to $30k if you could find them, and one that I have was never made. They are labels that were cut and glued to straight steel cans. Unless you were holding them, you would have a hard time knowing they weren't real.

For litho cars, the same method should work fine. The problem is that only the Lionel 1719 is a great candidate due to the smooth sides. I hate to destroy good ones, and I don't see a lot of bad ones. The American Flyer 3208 could work, but the sides are not smooth. I see a beat up one available. You could possibly pound out the ribbing. The 3208 is smaller than the 1719 by about an inch.

George

Dennis Holler posted:

George, I agree with your thoughts.  I think it would be pretty easy to get 28 gage or similar tin laser cut into parts for a reefer.  The quantity issue was more related to the litho.  Not that it will come to anything, I'm tossing idea's around anyway.

Would the tin and laser cutting be cheaper than bashing a clunker? I think you said the parts would cost more than buying the whole thing.

George

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