Hi everyone. Sorry for the late start. This week I have a flat car I did from an old box car I needed parts for I also glued magnets to some vehicles when I want to change the load out for a different look. Let’s see your tinplate!
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This week I made a video of a tinplate style representation of the pre-war Golden Arrow (in French: Flèche d’Or) train from London to Paris. The British train, made up of Pullman cars and a Southern Railway “Spamcan” locomotive, ran from London to Dover. In Dover the passengers transferred to the ferry Canterbury to cross the Channel to Calais. In Calais they transferred to a CIWL Pullman train pulled by a Nord Chapelon pacific for the trip to Paris Gare du Nord. The British train is made by ACE of London for the locomotive and Darstaed for the Pullman cars. The French train is a product made in the eighties by AS from France. The British signal box is Hornby while the French one is from JEP. On both sides of the Channel the train was decorated with the train name and golden arrows.
Regards
Fred
Fred,
Way cool Trains sir, and thanks for the history! Love it.
PCRR/Dave
Wow Chris...I was starting to panic!! The flat car looks great, and Fred great stuff as always.
Did some disassembly on the Flyer Dump car I got from Dennis. One end had some pretty good rust, one latch was froze in place. It literally took one shot of PB Blaster and ten seconds to free up. After hitting it with the wire wheel, the end was kind of Swiss cheesy...but luckily my good pal JB stopped by and took care of things.
So at York l got 3 new O Tinplat cars. The Crane and Hopper l paided $50 ea. Caboose l got for $25. 
sncf231e posted:This week I made a video of a tinplate style representation of the pre-war Golden Arrow (in French: Flèche d’Or) train from London to Paris. The British train, made up of Pullman cars and a Southern Railway “Spamcan” locomotive, ran from London to Dover. In Dover the passengers transferred to the ferry Canterbury to cross the Channel to Calais. In Calais they transferred to a CIWL Pullman train pulled by a Nord Chapelon pacific for the trip to Paris Gare du Nord. The British train is made by ACE of London for the locomotive and Darstaed for the Pullman cars. The French train is a product made in the eighties by AS from France. The British signal box is Hornby while the French one is from JEP. On both sides of the Channel the train was decorated with the train name and golden arrows.
Regards
Fred
I think we should all road trip to Fred's garden.
FRED: YOUR BEST VIDEO YET! BRAVO, SIR!
Jim O'C posted:sncf231e posted:This week I made a video of a tinplate style representation of the pre-war Golden Arrow (in French: Flèche d’Or) train from London to Paris. The British train, made up of Pullman cars and a Southern Railway “Spamcan” locomotive, ran from London to Dover. In Dover the passengers transferred to the ferry Canterbury to cross the Channel to Calais. In Calais they transferred to a CIWL Pullman train pulled by a Nord Chapelon pacific for the trip to Paris Gare du Nord. The British train is made by ACE of London for the locomotive and Darstaed for the Pullman cars. The French train is a product made in the eighties by AS from France. The British signal box is Hornby while the French one is from JEP. On both sides of the Channel the train was decorated with the train name and golden arrows.
Regards
Fred
I think we should all road trip to Fred's garden.
Hmm... What road? Do you mean swim to the Netherlands? 
George
Group excursion, George, maybe a cruise along the Danube.
A classic fromMarklin during the thirties, a DIESELTRIEBWAG
As many of you seems to enjoy crane cars and work trains this is the Marklin model from the thirties. I had to restore the paint on the boom and the cab roof as it was really damaged.
As usually have a great tinplate weekend, Daniel
Wow! I don't think I have ever come as close to having tinplate withdrawal symptoms 
as I did this morning when I logged on and there was no Weekend Tinplate thread. I'm glad you got it started Chris. I feel much better now 
.
My first love in tinplate will always be American Flyer. However there are examples by other manufacturers that I will always feel like flirting with. One of the trains by Lionel that I have always admired is their coal train.
(Borrowed from Google Images and credited to DAKOTApaul)
I have most often seen this set headed up by an electric outline engine, however there is another version.
Lionel Set #393
(Borrowed from Google Images and credited to the liveautioneers.com site)
I prefer the set led by the steam engine. I have lamented numerous times "Why didn't Flyer make something like this?" Some time ago I was going through some of the collection that is stored in boxes as individual pieces and I had one of those light bulb over your head moments . I realized I could make a coal train from Narrow Gauge equipment that paid homage to Lionel's creation. It has taken a few months but I finally have all the pieces together.
It required a few purchases (no hardship there), so here is another entry into the category "They never made it this way, but if they had...."
The American Flyer Pennsylvania Coal Train
It is made up of some easy to find components, none of which is too expensive.
A #420 engine and an 1121 tender
In this set there are 4 311267 Pennsylvania coal hoppers
and an 1127 caboose
I think it came out quite well.
And its fun to watch running on the layout.
Have a Great Tinplate Weekend
Northwoods Flyer
Greg
Early Marx Clockwork passenger set with lithographed frames and unusual green Commodore Vanderbilt engine with black tender
DANIEL: NICE rail bus and crane! GREG: I like your AF coal train! RSB: NICE MARX clockwork set!
Greg J. Turinetti posted:Wow! I don't think I have ever come as close to having tinplate withdrawal symptoms
My first love in tinplate will always be American Flyer. However there are examples by other manufacturers that I will always feel like flirting with. One of the trains by Lionel that I have always admired is their coal train.
(Borrowed from Google Images and credited to DAKOTApaul)
I have most often seen this set headed up by an electric outline engine, however there is another version.
Lionel Set #393
(Borrowed from Google Images and credited to the liveautioneers.com site)
I prefer the set led by the steam engine. I have lamented numerous times "Why didn't Flyer make something like this? Some time ago I was going through some of the collection that is stored in boxes as individual pieces and I had one of light bulb over your head moments. I realized I could make a coal train from Narrow Gauge equipment that paid homage to Lionel's creation. It has taken a few months I finally have all the pieces together
. It required a few purchases (no hardship there), so here is another entry into the category "They never made it this way, but if they had...."
The American Flyer Pennsylvania Coal Train
It is made up of some easy to find components, none of which is too expensive.
A #420 engine and an 1121 tender
In this set there are 4 311267 Pennsylvania coal hoppers
and an 1127 caboose
I think it came out quite well.
And its fun to watch running on the layout.
(Videos to follow as soon as I get them posted)
Great idea Greg. You could do the same with 4-wheel or 8-wheel gondolas or boxcars from the same or similar series.
FRENCHTRAINS posted:A classic fromMarklin during the thirties, a DIESELTRIEBWAG
EN TWE 930, this one is a clockwork model and allows very long runs.
As many of you seems to enjoy crane cars and work trains this is the Marklin model from the thirties. I had to restore the paint on the boom and the cab roof as it was really damaged.
As usually have a great tinplate weekend, Daniel
Saw a 20-volt electric version of the same TWE recently. Huuuge money.
Saw a 20-volt electric version of the same TWE recently. Huuuge money.
The clockwork model is less expensive, and if you buy it in Germany it is a comon model in his country and it may be purchase for a fair price..... just have to wait a good opportunity, this one was for less than a hundred $$$$$$$
Sounds like a good price!
This is an overall shot of my 8x12 Standard Gauge Tinplate layout and shelves for my collection of reproduction and vintage trains. This is in a finished basement. Layout height is a mere 24 inches which actually works great.
The shelves are 1x4’s with track grooves milled in. They are glued and screwed to 1/2 ply which is supported by 4 legs and is also screwed to the drywall.
Jim Z
Just curious: why the low height?
Very nice!
Jim O'C,
Way cool 1930's Marklin Crane Car, great restoration job also!
PCRR/Dave
Greg, I love your flyer coal train!
Is that shingle material you are using for roads? It looks great.
jhz563 posted:Greg, I love your flyer coal train!
Is that shingle material you are using for roads? It looks great.
Thanks!
The video is of its first run on the layout this morning. Yes, the roads are shingle material. I read an article somewhere about using it as roadway and when we had our house re-roofed there were extra pieces left over. It is actually the back side of the shingle. The nice part was I could cut it with a good sturdy scissors.
I initially used cut up brown paper bags to figure out my street layout
And then I cut the shingles to fit the street design
Thanks for asking
Greg
I picked up this Lionel 215 tank car at York last weekend. This is the last car I "needed" to complete a 1-year-only prewar Standard Gauge freight set, headed by a 390E and 390X tender. It took a while to find one that was in the condition I was after, but it was worth the wait.
John
Tinplate Art posted:Just curious: why the low height?
It was originally planned for both a 24 inch lower level with tunnels and about half hidden track and a 36 inch level with the figure 8, town, stations and yard. I abandoned the upper level due to some derailments when I first laid out track the lower level. I then replanned for one level and decided to keep the table at 24 inch. I like it. You get a birds eye view when standing and get a more conventional model railroading view when sitting. Kids can see without being lifted and I can reach the middle of the layout easily for track maintenance and scenery placement. I also have additional wall space behind the layout for visible shelving. It’s not conventional but it works well fo me!
Jim
Jim Z posted:This is an overall shot of my 8x12 Standard Gauge Tinplate layout
Jim, can you post an overhead shot sometime?
I went to Train Town today and finally bought my first piece of vintage tinplate. I'm going to try my hand at restoring this caboose:
Also, I picked up this little guy. Looks okay but the gable end is bent. The whistle works great.
beachhead2 posted:Also, I picked up this little guy. Looks okay but the gable end is bent. The whistle works great.
That’s a really nice piece and it works! 👍
beachhead2 posted:Jim Z posted:This is an overall shot of my 8x12 Standard Gauge Tinplate layout
Jim, can you post an overhead shot sometime?
Next Friday if all goes well!
Jim Z posted:beachhead2 posted:Jim Z posted:This is an overall shot of my 8x12 Standard Gauge Tinplate layout
Jim, can you post an overhead shot sometime?
Next Friday if all goes well!
Looking forward to it. I'm building my first layout and I want to learn all I can.
BeachHead2,
Looks like a 517 restoration project is coming up!
PCRR/Dave
got the dump body in the paint shop. I was planning to use the green I had used on my 607 cars, which is light, so I figured i do the body black first to make it darker, but
I like the way the body looks in black, so I'm going with that.
and got my 815 tank dissembled, and the frame painted.It was missing the latch couplers, so the ones on the leftover 803 stock car frame donated those.
sncf231e posted:This week I made a video of a tinplate style representation of the pre-war Golden Arrow (in French: Flèche d’Or) train from London to Paris. The British train, made up of Pullman cars and a Southern Railway “Spamcan” locomotive, ran from London to Dover. In Dover the passengers transferred to the ferry Canterbury to cross the Channel to Calais. In Calais they transferred to a CIWL Pullman train pulled by a Nord Chapelon pacific for the trip to Paris Gare du Nord. The British train is made by ACE of London for the locomotive and Darstaed for the Pullman cars. The French train is a product made in the eighties by AS from France. The British signal box is Hornby while the French one is from JEP. On both sides of the Channel the train was decorated with the train name and golden arrows.
talking station
Fred
Thanks for publishing that video - it's quite a nostalgia trip for me. I rode the Golden Arrow from Paris to London and back in 1962. Your trains are from anearlier era than mine - must be in the 30's.
On my trip, I rode from Dover to London in a second class Pullman on an all Pullman MU train. The French part was still steam and I have a photo of the SNCF 4-6-2 at Calais with the Fleche d'Or symbol on the front. The French train was many ordinary SNCF coaches and a few first class Pullmans.
I hope you can get two more French Pullmans. That traqin had to be a bit crowded if those four English Pullmans were fully booked :-)
mlaughlinnyc posted:sncf231e posted:Thanks for publishing that video - it's quite a nostalgia trip for me. I rode the Golden Arrow from Paris to London and back in 1962. Your trains are from anearlier era than mine - must be in the 30's.
On my trip, I rode from Dover to London in a second class Pullman on an all Pullman MU train. The French part was still steam and I have a photo of the SNCF 4-6-2 at Calais with the Fleche d'Or symbol on the front. The French train was many ordinary SNCF coaches and a few first class Pullmans.
I hope you can get two more French Pullmans. That traqin had to be a bit crowded if those four English Pullmans were fully booked :-)
The era of the trains in the video is a bit of a mix, since the British Southern locomotive ran between 1945 and 1948, the brown French Pullman car between 1928 and 1933 and the Nord Chapelon between 1935 and 1938. Indeed the French train is a bit short, but AS did only make these 3 different cars; I do have other 0 gauge Flèche d'Or cars but these are nor tinplate style and would not look good combined with the AS cars; here are these cars in another short Flèche d'Or:
Regards
Fred
Steamer,
David no doubt about it, once you see the Black on the Lionel or AF Tin Plate, it is very hard to then paint a different color over it. Even the dull undercoat I used on the 817 looked very nice, the high gloss final coats are seriously cool, with the antique Lionel Brass and Gold Trim. Your dump car with the high gloss Black color, will look fantastic when you reassemble her!
PCRR/Dave
Got to love the high gloss Black on the Tin
I left the Lionel Brass in it's original state, with just a slight wipe down to give the 817 a touch of the past.
got this waiting in the wings...also from Dennis....
Dave,
Its nice to see you giving these old pieces of tinplate a new life. The repaints and restoration that you and others are doing show that the design of these toys last the test of time. Thanks for sharing your progress.
Northwoods Flyer
Greg
I'm pretty happy with how my work caboose turned out.
I finished some paint touch-ups. The Terra Cotta dried darker with a nice glossy shine. I forgot I needed a brake wheel when I went to York. That's the one missing piece. Well, it also needs some barrels or some other load.
George
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