Classic locos from JEP in 1925, three color variations of a 040 clockwork with a windcutter cab, the green one bears a Bristish marking on the tender GN, export model from that time. The fourth one is an electric model of a 240 steam loco running with high voltage current.

Have a great tinplate weekend,    Daniel

So many of the Dorfan Std Gauge Freight Cars are found with Lionel 200 series truck due to the original trucks suffering zinc rot. I have decided to standardize all of mine with 200 trucks. Here's the latest conversions. Dorfan lithography is amazing.

Steve

A couple of new Ives additions. My 19 with Marklin motor needed a correct 17 tender and also picked up an unusual 1914 all black 66 tank car.

Steve

STEVE "PAPA" EASTMAN showed a station a few days ago (Another Who Dunnit Euro Station) which he rightly assumed was made by Kibri. Here are some of my Kibri stations showing that many (postwar) Kibri stations have this special "Kibri" style:

And this Kibri newsstand has the same looks:

More pictures in my tinplate accessories e-book: http://sncf231e.nl/tin-stuff-from-fred-2/

Regards

Fred

got a new project coming. 

I already have a gray and red car, and the orange car, so this one will get a custom paint job.

It’s a great day for train watching at Aisley’s Diner.

sncf231e posted:

STEVE "PAPA" EASTMAN showed a station a few days ago (Another Who Dunnit Euro Station) which he rightly assumed was made by Kibri. Here are some of my Kibri stations showing that many (postwar) Kibri stations have this special "Kibri" style:

There's a few similar looking items on the 'bay right now.  I like the working clocks incorporated into the Station Designs.

American Flyer Set #6 From 1918

The catalog promise...

....and the contents

Tootsietoy ambulance headed to the paint-shop:

N&W Tinplate

Scott Smith

Some photos of the Marx portion of the collection.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Fred and Daniel: Absolute GEMS as always! THANK YOU for sharing so this "armchair" buff gets to see these FINE collectibles!  ☺

Took delivery of this last week...

beachhead2 posted:

beachhead2,

What a beauty.  It is on my "Most Wanted" list.  Nice catch

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Very nice indeed!

My new MTH 390E. I need the Blue and Brass 300 Series cars or the State Cars now! 

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

beachhead2 posted:

beachhead2,

What a beauty.  It is on my "Most Wanted" list.  Nice catch

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

I know this is blasphemy,,,but I like this much better than the 400e,,,,,i have 6 new ones and a prewar one

Familiar faces...

terry hudon posted:

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

beachhead2,

What a beauty.  It is on my "Most Wanted" list.  Nice catch

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

I know this is blasphemy,,,but I like this much better than the 400e,,,,,i have 6 new ones and a prewar one

I wish I knew where to get some more American Flyer brass name plates for the tenders.  If I did, I would buy one of those 4696 "road name" versions in PS3.  I just don't like road names on my tinplate.  I'd like that Lehigh Valley 4696 to pull an American Flyer Christmas train.  I called MTH and they said their deal with Lionel precludes them from making the plates for parts.  So I'm thinking about seeing if I can have them made.  Maybe a trophy shop...

Chris Lonero posted:

Lets see your tinplate! 🚂

Chris,

I like the load on the Flyer hopper.  Did you make it or is it available commercially?

Jim Z

beachhead2 posted:

terry hudon posted:

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

beachhead2,

What a beauty.  It is on my "Most Wanted" list.  Nice catch

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

I know this is blasphemy,,,but I like this much better than the 400e,,,,,i have 6 new ones and a prewar one

I wish I knew where to get some more American Flyer brass name plates for the tenders.  If I did, I would buy one of those 4696 "road name" versions in PS3.  I just don't like road names on my tinplate.  I'd like that Lehigh Valley 4696 to pull an American Flyer Christmas train.  I called MTH and they said their deal with Lionel precludes them from making the plates for parts.  So I'm thinking about seeing if I can have them made.  Maybe a trophy shop...

I had a trophy shop make some plates for an Ives electric cab years ago. They came out well but they could only get close on the font.

Steve

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

I had a trophy shop make some plates for an Ives electric cab years ago. They came out well but they could only get close on the font.

Steve

Good to know.  I'll give it a try.  Thanks, Steve.

added another diner the legionnaire set,so now its the legionnaire dinner train !,love the sound of the flex trucks on fastrack

jhz563 posted:

Familiar faces...

Your prewar family has grown very quickly!!  Nice trains

A recent import- French Hornby "Salt Box" electric loco. During a visit to the Citi du Train (National Railway Museum) in Mulhouse, France last weekend, we were surprised to find a model train swap meet and Lego exhibition underway. This was both good and bad, lots of interesting model trains to look at, but also lots of tables partially blocking our photos of their amazing collection of life size trains. There was one seller with a nice selection of European tinplate, and I purchased this loco from him. I see these on Ebay all the time, I believe it was made in the 1950's. After some cleaning and lube it runs well, although a bit slowly; it is marked 20V, so perhaps it was used to a slightly higher voltage.

The museum also had all kinds of examples of trains that had inspired European toy trains, a few examples:

Dennis Holler posted:

jhz563 posted:

Familiar faces...

Your prewar family has grown very quickly!!  Nice trains

Sure has .... it even surprises me!  Two of these still need overhauled, though they all run

Just completed my upgrade to Papa 9.0. The van runs much better now.

Steve

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Just completed my upgrade to Papa 9.0. The van runs much better now.

Steve

Good stuff.  Congratulations to you!

Jim Z posted:

Chris Lonero posted:

Lets see your tinplate! 🚂

Chris,

I like the load on the Flyer hopper.  Did you make it or is it available commercially?

Jim Z

Thanks Jim. I made it myself with a false bottom and gluing a real coal load on top of it. 

scott.smith posted:

N&W Tinplate

Scott Smith

I like those colors Scott. 

John Smatlak posted:

A recent import- French Hornby "Salt Box" electric loco. During a visit to the Citi du Train (National Railway Museum) in Mulhouse, France last weekend, we were surprised to find a model train swap meet and Lego exhibition underway. This was both good and bad, lots of interesting model trains to look at, but also lots of tables partially blocking our photos of their amazing collection of life size trains. There was one seller with a nice selection of European tinplate, and I purchased this loco from him. I see these on Ebay all the time, I believe it was made in the 1950's. After some cleaning and lube it runs well, although a bit slowly; it is marked 20V, so perhaps it was used to a slightly higher voltage.

 

The museum also had all kinds of examples of trains that had inspired European toy trains, a few examples:

Your loco is the Hornby OE-PO and dates from 1950-53. The motor is 20 volts AC but Hornby motors are really weak when compared to a Lionel or JEP. I enjoy Hornby trains for their specific appearance but running them too long is often a source of problems, they are "light" construction.

Great you spend  nice time in Mulhouse and have a model train swap meet at the same time,   Daniel   

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

John Smatlak posted:

A recent import- French Hornby "Salt Box" electric loco. During a visit to the Citi du Train (National Railway Museum) in Mulhouse, France last weekend, we were surprised to find a model train swap meet and Lego exhibition underway. This was both good and bad, lots of interesting model trains to look at, but also lots of tables partially blocking our photos of their amazing collection of life size trains. There was one seller with a nice selection of European tinplate, and I purchased this loco from him. I see these on Ebay all the time, I believe it was made in the 1950's. After some cleaning and lube it runs well, although a bit slowly; it is marked 20V, so perhaps it was used to a slightly higher voltage.

 

The museum also had all kinds of examples of trains that had inspired European toy trains, a few examples:

Your loco is the Hornby OE-PO and dates from 1950-53. The motor is 20 volts AC but Hornby motors are really weak when compared to a Lionel or JEP. I enjoy Hornby trains for their specific appearance but running them too long is often a source of problems, they are "light" construction.

Great you spend  nice time in Mulhouse and have a model train swap meet at the same time,   Daniel   

Daniel- thank you for the info. Interestingly my locomotive has the earlier style collapsible pantographs, but the body does not have the extra decals and solid red buffer area seen on the earlier production; I assume someone put an earlier roof on at some point.  I see there is quite a bit of information on the internet on French Hornby, (for example this page on the Binn's Road site: http://www.binnsroad.co.uk/rai...yfr/locos/index.html). Any reccomendations on books detailing the earlier periods? Thanks again. 

John Smatlak posted:

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

 

Daniel- thank you for the info. Interestingly my locomotive has the earlier style collapsible pantographs, but the body does not have the extra decals and solid red buffer area seen on the earlier production; I assume someone put an earlier roof on at some point.  I see there is quite a bit of information on the internet on French Hornby, (for example this page on the Binn's Road site: http://www.binnsroad.co.uk/rai...yfr/locos/index.html). Any reccomendations on books detailing the earlier periods? Thanks again. 

John, your loco is the post war model, the decals are the right ones and the roof has certainly been change for a pre-war model. The best book available in english is "The Hornby Gauge O system" by Chris Graebe, he is the most knowlegeable Hornby collector. You can find one on ABE Books or Ebay.

https://www.abebooks.com/book-...author/chris-graebe/

There is no mail adress in your profile otherwise I could have sent you a copy of the Hornby Railway Collectors Association with the full story of those locos. if you want it drop me a mail and I will send it to you.  

Very best,  Daniel

Picture of a pre-war model.

Daniel- I checked my profile page and there is an address, but I also just added it on the "mailing address" line, so perhaps that will make it visible? Thanks again.

John, it's perfect, look at your mail, i just sent it. i cannot publish it here as it is reserved to members of course.

Daniel

Running the big boy toys at the Orange County Children’s Book Festival.

Steve

pd posted:

Tootsietoy ambulance headed to the paint-shop:

10/1  Got any pictures of the front? Looks Studebaker-like in this view, but I am not aware of this model.

10/7  Never mind. The Tootsietoy book says it is a 49 Chevrolet.

John Smatlak posted:

A recent import- French Hornby "Salt Box" electric loco. During a visit to the Citi du Train (National Railway Museum) in Mulhouse .........

 

[ I ran across this post while searching for something else  ]

Actually the "salt box" reference applies to the steeplecab electric loco, seen at the far left of your Museum photo above;  see for example the history section  [ in English ] on the SNCF official website ( which is never [ cough ] wrong ).  These units were built beginning in 1900 for the underground extension of the P-O from Austerlitz  to Orsay stations in Paris, using third rail 600 volts.  I think Märklin modelled these in 0.

I believe, based on my 25 minutes of non-exhaustive research, that the actual prototype of the Hornby electric, which was considerably reduced in length [ two axles instead of eight ], was the PLM electric locomotive 242-BE-1 of 1927, later SNCF 2BB2 3301;  compare the window/grill arrangement, the end bonnets, the roof ventilation, air reservoirs as examples.

I imagine Hornby used the P-O lettering and colors since their large 1500 vdc overhead electric locomotives would be seen regularly in Paris, whereas the PLM loco [ which used both outside third rail and overhead at 1500 vdc ] was on a line climbing up the Maurienne valley in southeastern France, far from the population centers and potential Hornby buyers.  I can't explain the El 31 nomenclature, though.

With best regards,

SZ

Steinzeit posted:

John Smatlak posted:

A recent import- French Hornby "Salt Box" electric loco. During a visit to the Citi du Train (National Railway Museum) in Mulhouse .........

 

 

[ I ran across this post while searching for something else  ]

Actually the "salt box" reference applies to the steeplecab electric loco, seen at the far left of your Museum photo above;  see for example the history section  [ in English ] on the SNCF official website ( which is never [ cough ] wrong ).  These units were built beginning in 1900 for the underground extension of the P-O from Austerlitz  to Orsay stations in Paris, using third rail 600 volts.  I think Märklin modelled these in 0.

I believe, based on my 25 minutes of non-exhaustive research, that the actual prototype of the Hornby electric, which was considerably reduced in length [ two axles instead of eight ], was the PLM electric locomotive 242-BE-1 of 1927, later SNCF 2BB2 3301;  compare the window/grill arrangement, the end bonnets, the roof ventilation, air reservoirs as examples.

I imagine Hornby used the P-O lettering and colors since their large 1500 vdc overhead electric locomotives would be seen regularly in Paris, whereas the PLM loco [ which used both outside third rail and overhead at 1500 vdc ] was on a line climbing up the Maurienne valley in southeastern France, far from the population centers and potential Hornby buyers.  I can't explain the El 31 nomenclature, though.

With best regards,

SZ

SZ- that makes sense that the "Salt Box" refers to the steeplecab configuration. Here is a photo of that P-O E-1 electric loco in the museum in Mulhouse and my JEP P-O E-1 loco (including a short video of it running on a friend's layout). Thanks