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AGHRMatt posted:

The plan for mine, as it represents 4014 "As-Restored" (if/when that happens), will be excursions with the occasional modern freight..The up side is I can also consist it with one or more heritage units. If I were smart (well, so much for that) I'd get hold of a DD40A to add to the set.

Well Matt, you really shouldn't do that, since the Lionel Vision Line model of UP 4014 is the "as delivered" version. Thus if the real 4014 ever does get restored/rebuilt for operation and CONVERTED to oil burning, which was the plan, then your Lionel Vision Line model will not not look ANYTHING like a restored for operation 4014.

You might just as well model 1941 thru 1947, because THAT is what the Lionel Vision Line 4000 class locomotive models represent, regardless of what the road number is.

As of now, my VL BB pull's PFE Reefers, stock cars, and miscellaneous UP freight cars.  It will pull the Lionel UP Excursion Passenger cars once they arrive later this year (fingers crossed).  I already have a UP ES44AC diesel and auxilliary water tender ready to go.  Sure, it won't be prototypical, but it should look good on the club layout.

Hot Water posted:
AGHRMatt posted:

The plan for mine, as it represents 4014 "As-Restored" (if/when that happens), will be excursions with the occasional modern freight..The up side is I can also consist it with one or more heritage units. If I were smart (well, so much for that) I'd get hold of a DD40A to add to the set.

Well Matt, you really shouldn't do that, since the Lionel Vision Line model of UP 4014 is the "as delivered" version. Thus if the real 4014 ever does get restored/rebuilt for operation and CONVERTED to oil burning, which was the plan, then your Lionel Vision Line model will not not look ANYTHING like a restored for operation 4014.

You might just as well model 1941 thru 1947, because THAT is what the Lionel Vision Line 4000 class locomotive models represent, regardless of what the road number is.

He has the MTH version only if I am correct

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yankspride4 posted:

I pull boxcars and reefers with mine. Sometimes some grain hoppers too.

 

I don't believe there were "grain hoppers" in the early 1940s. covered hoppers for cement yes, but grain was carried in boxcars.

To expand on this subject:graindoor

I don't know whom to credit for the photo, but I can look at it and tell what's going on.  The man crawling up the side is a grain inspector with a long grain tester in his hand.  The tester has closeable ports along one side...the ports are opened...the rod is plunged into the grain...the ports are closed, and the grain is taken to be sampled for moisture content.  Storage facilities will not accept grain with excessive moisture for obvious reasons.  But farmers and harvesters will go to great lengths to slip wet grain away from the farm.  My dad was a farmer and a custom harvester for a time...he did not like the man on the side of the car.

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SDIV Tim posted:
Hot Water posted:
AGHRMatt posted:

The plan for mine, as it represents 4014 "As-Restored" (if/when that happens), will be excursions with the occasional modern freight..The up side is I can also consist it with one or more heritage units. If I were smart (well, so much for that) I'd get hold of a DD40A to add to the set.

Well Matt, you really shouldn't do that, since the Lionel Vision Line model of UP 4014 is the "as delivered" version. Thus if the real 4014 ever does get restored/rebuilt for operation and CONVERTED to oil burning, which was the plan, then your Lionel Vision Line model will not not look ANYTHING like a restored for operation 4014.

You might just as well model 1941 thru 1947, because THAT is what the Lionel Vision Line 4000 class locomotive models represent, regardless of what the road number is.

He has the MTH version only if I am correct

An older MTH model? I didn't realize that the "new MTH 4014 restored and converted to oil burning model" was even out yet.

Hot Water posted:
yankspride4 posted:

I pull boxcars and reefers with mine. Sometimes some grain hoppers too.

 

I don't believe there were "grain hoppers" in the early 1940s. covered hoppers for cement yes, but grain was carried in boxcars.

I wasn't aware of that. Thanks. I guess they'll be cement hoppers now. LOL. Learn something new everyday.

I don't usually run coal hoppers with mine because I don't recall seeing old film corroborating such. Was coal an uncommon load?

Hot Water posted:
yankspride4 posted:

I pull boxcars and reefers with mine. Sometimes some grain hoppers too.

 

I don't believe there were "grain hoppers" in the early 1940s. covered hoppers for cement yes, but grain was carried in boxcars.

Did the grain boxcars have any special markings or did they just install grain doors in whatever cars they had available?

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SDIV Tim posted:
Hot Water posted:
AGHRMatt posted:

The plan for mine, as it represents 4014 "As-Restored" (if/when that happens), will be excursions with the occasional modern freight..The up side is I can also consist it with one or more heritage units. If I were smart (well, so much for that) I'd get hold of a DD40A to add to the set.

Well Matt, you really shouldn't do that, since the Lionel Vision Line model of UP 4014 is the "as delivered" version. Thus if the real 4014 ever does get restored/rebuilt for operation and CONVERTED to oil burning, which was the plan, then your Lionel Vision Line model will not not look ANYTHING like a restored for operation 4014.

You might just as well model 1941 thru 1947, because THAT is what the Lionel Vision Line 4000 class locomotive models represent, regardless of what the road number is.

He has the MTH version only if I am correct

An older MTH model? I didn't realize that the "new MTH 4014 restored and converted to oil burning model" was even out yet.

He got it around d December and it to me looked more toyish but it looked longer than the Vision Line version... It sounded amazing. The other Big Boys are out and Eric Siegel is going to do a review eventually on it.

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SDIV Tim posted:
Hot Water posted:
AGHRMatt posted:

The plan for mine, as it represents 4014 "As-Restored" (if/when that happens), will be excursions with the occasional modern freight..The up side is I can also consist it with one or more heritage units. If I were smart (well, so much for that) I'd get hold of a DD40A to add to the set.

Well Matt, you really shouldn't do that, since the Lionel Vision Line model of UP 4014 is the "as delivered" version. Thus if the real 4014 ever does get restored/rebuilt for operation and CONVERTED to oil burning, which was the plan, then your Lionel Vision Line model will not not look ANYTHING like a restored for operation 4014.

You might just as well model 1941 thru 1947, because THAT is what the Lionel Vision Line 4000 class locomotive models represent, regardless of what the road number is.

He has the MTH version only if I am correct

An older MTH model? I didn't realize that the "new MTH 4014 restored and converted to oil burning model" was even out yet.

He got it around d December and it to me looked more toyish but it looked longer than the Vision Line version... It sounded amazing. The other Big Boys are out and Eric Siegel is going to do a review eventually on it.

MTH Premier Proto-3/Oil Burner/Scale Wheels. When they pulled 4014, I personally asked Midge and Andy to produce the model as they already had everything necessary to produce it (hopefully we'll also see it in H.O.) Has 844-style Oil Tender. Beautiful engine. Runs smoothly and sounds great. The only thing I'd change if it was easy is the classification lights. Arrived in December right before Christmas. According to the UP people I talked to before it left the fairgrounds [if/] when it's restored it will have duties similar to 3985 an 844. Already ordered the full-length Lionel Excursion car set plus the 2-car add-on (passed on the diner since I don't use Legacy). Plan to outfit them with long-shank Kadees, and at some point, scale wheels so I can run on the Orange County O scalers modular layout.

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gunrunnerjohn posted:

My BB pulls anything it wants to.   I'm stocking up on PFE Reefers.

Same here.  I've got 14 PFE reefers now with 3 more on order for my VLBB (There'll be two of them sound reefers on that there train!).  But I've pulled everything and anything I have behind it, even Marx tin plate.  About the only thing I haven't pulled is the public.  I wonder if it would pull my 9 month old son...

Robert Coniglio posted:

I think that a Big Boy military train is the cats meow

Bob C.

Loooooong time ago ( maybe back in the 50's), as a boy, I saw the back inside-cover of a Model Railroader magazine that had such a train, presenting a look back, reflecting on the involvement of the RRs in the war effort.

A war-baby

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