Rich,
She is running only 1 engine on that train. It could have been 2 engines linked together or should I say “lashed up together” ?
Would that qualify me for one of those Ivory soaps mouth washing? Lol!
Freshman in high school and hopefully she still enjoys operating trains with grandpa.
Regards, Ted
@Rich Melvin posted:Thank you Andre. Your explanation is spot on. Only a total greenhorn newbie would use the term “drive” here in the USA.
Here in the USA the person who RUNS the train is the ENGINEER. That person is not a “Train Driver” nor do they “drive” the train.
Of course, many of us who are "engineers" do not have the opportunity to run a train.
And you cannot debate with Jerry Garcia when it comes to drivin that train...
Who is Jerry Garcia?
@Rich Melvin posted:Who is Jerry Garcia?
Let's just say the engineer in Jerry Garcia's song had a lot in common with the engineer of the Red Arrow.
George
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Obviously not a Dead fan.
No, I’m not. I had to click your link to see what “Dead” even meant in this context.
I know absolutely nothing about popular music. Was never a fan and never listened to any of it. All just noise to me.
I’m more of a Mozart/Beethoven/Bach type.
@Rich Melvin posted:When I started this thread, I had no intention of this becoming an argument about what word to use to describe the role of the person who runs a train.
Andre's post is right on the mark and I completely agree with him.
We have many uniquely AMERICAN terms in railroading that are used in AMERICA. We have OUR terms, just as England, Europe, and Australia have theirs. Since I am an AMERICAN, I shall use AMERICAN terms when I discuss railroading. In AMERICA, an ENGINEER RUNS the train. Simple.
Moreover, America's freight railroads are the envy of the world.
I can't believe, of all people, Rich Melvin, getting into the TMCC vs DCS debate. By the way, when I say Ford is better than Chevy, it is really a euphemism for that. Will admit my father did work at a Ford dealership. Will admit to lusting at the Ford Maverick pickup. Will admit noticing many youtube videos complaining about certain engines in Ford pickups.
Side question. I bought an MTH F3 PS1 Northern Pacific AA set (and a separate sale B unit). I see mention of a piece of plastic needed to keep the coupler isolated from the frame when converting to PS3. Do I need that for TMCC conversion using a Cruise Commander as well? Yes, I could probably figure it out by just looking for a bridge rectifier on the TMCC board (why would you put 4 diodes in a bridge if only three are needed)?
@Rich Melvin posted:I know absolutely nothing about popular music. Was never a fan and never listened to any of it. All just noise to me.
I’m more of a Mozart/Beethoven/Bach type.
Well now, THAT’S not very American! 
"HAT’S not very American"
Are you telling us Mozart, Beethoven and Bach weren't American? Seriously?
@rplst8 posted:Well now, THAT’S not very American!
Also a fan of John Phillip Sousa, George Gershwin, Scott Joplin, Aaron Copland, and a few other American composers. Gershwin’s “Rhapsody in Blue” is one of my favorite orchestral works.
@Landsteiner posted:Are you telling us Mozart, Beethoven and Bach weren't American? Seriously?
OK…enough of this. Can we get this thread back on track now?
Rich, I'm glad that this topic has proven to be educational to so many. I never would have thought that the engine was converted as I didn't know what make it was to begin with. Two very important things to note, fun with grandkids, and very great taste in music. You can't go wrong with the classics.
Rich, your original post is a great conversation starter, and as you mentioned, into areas you didn't think of. I have seen that happen on comments I have made, and am glad for all of the 'trains' of thought that have come up here over the years!!
The best part is, your granddaughter was enjoying running a train!!
Nothing. Nothing is wrong with a child running trains on a layout.
@mwb posted:Nothing. Nothing is wrong with a child running trains on a layout.
There ya go! I like that philosophy!
The best part of this thread is watching that young girl have fun running her train. I don't care whose model with what guts it has inside.
Rich - a question somewhat tongue in cheek: I thought the Conductor was the one who ran the train and the engineer was the one who operated the motive power.
Semantics aside, I hope that (now) young woman is still enjoying time running trains with her grandpa.
Paul
@Rich Melvin posted:I know absolutely nothing about popular music. Was never a fan and never listened to any of it. All just noise to me.
I’m more of a Mozart/Beethoven/Bach type.
@Rich Melvin, aside from a brief flirtation with classic rock in secondary school, I'm right there with you. IMnotsoHO, heaven includes an evening listening to the Alban Berg or Artemis quartet performing late Beethoven string quartets; singing the B minor Mass, the Creation, and Die Jahreszeiten with a great choir, orchestra, and soloists; and seeing a legendary cast doing Le Nozze di Figaro, Don Giovanni, Tristan und Isolde, Der Ring des Nibelungen, and Der Rosenkavlier at the Met; Henryk Szyering performing the unaccompanied partitas and sonatas; and a legendary string quartet and cellist playing the Schubert Cello Quintet. Some works by 20th and 21st century greats and earlier Palestrina, Schütz, and Monteverdi would fit in nicely, too.
@Rich Melvin posted:No, I’m not. I had to click your link to see what “Dead” even meant in this context.
I know absolutely nothing about popular music. Was never a fan and never listened to any of it. All just noise to me.
I’m more of a Mozart/Beethoven/Bach type.
People do tend to like the music of their generation 😆
...Just joking BTW...
The Conductor is IN CHARGE of the train. The Engineer RUNS it.
@Matt_GNo27 posted:...an evening listening to the Alban Berg or Artemis quartet performing late Beethoven string quartets; singing the B minor Mass, the Creation, and Die Jahreszeiten with a great choir, orchestra, and soloists; and seeing a legendary cast doing Le Nozze di Figaro, Don Giovanni, Tristan und Isolde, Der Ring des Nibelungen, and Der Rosenkavlier at the Met; Henryk Szyering performing the unaccompanied partitas and sonatas; and a legendary string quartet and cellist playing the Schubert Cello Quintet. Some works by 20th and 21st century greats and earlier Palestrina, Schütz, and Monteverdi would fit in nicely, too.
Lots of great names and musical works there.
This music is more my speed...
The late Dr. Wade "Doc" Raridon was my voice teacher in college. I sang in this group for about 15 years. My brother and I are the low basses in the group, so be sure to listen to the end. We finish on a B1.
Beautiful music Rich.
Jerry
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