Skip to main content

Throughout the mid 20th century, steam in the United States was dying. Most big railroads saw that diesel was king and that steam should be scrapped. However, enthusiasts like Ross Rowland and F. Nelson Blount observed that the public adored steam locomotives. Other big railroads, like Union Pacific, Reading Company, and The Southern, preserved some of their most prized locomotives, and ran them in excursion service. Steam was given a second chance, and during the late 50's and early 60's, the excursion era was born. Some of the most famed excursions were the Reading Rambles, New Jersey's High Iron Company, The Southern Steam Program, and the Union Pacific Steam Program. Ross Rowland was the driving force behind the High Iron Company. Starting with a pair of Canadian Pacific G5's, which could handle about 10 cars each. He then transitioned to Nickel Plate Road 759, a Berkshire build in 1944, which could handle over 25 cars at mainline speed. The High Iron Company folded up in the mid 70's after 759 was retired due to mechanical issues, but this was not without many memorable excursions, including the Golden Spike Centennial Limited. But Ross wasn't done yet. In 1975 and 1976, the American Freedom Train toured the United States. Reading T1 2101 pulled the train on the east coast. Southern Pacific 4449 handled the train in the west. Finally, Texas & Pacific 610 brought the train through Texas only. 

Fast forward to 1980...

Ross Rowland's newly acquired and restored C&O J3A Greenbrier 614 awaits patiently in Baltimore Union Station. Strung out behind her, the Chessie Safety Express. These trips ran for two years before 614 was put to sleep in Hagerstown, MD. In 1985, 614 was awakened and a letter was added to its number. She was now 614t. For a month, she pulled 100 car loaded coal trains through the New River Gorge, testing for the ACE 3000 project. 

1996...

C&O 614 is back to her old self, with her original factory appearance. She finds herself sitting in Hoboken Terminal, with about 15 New Jersey Transit commuter cars, 4 privately owned coaches, 2 crew cars, and 1 generator car from Norfolk Southern. She was to pull the Erie Limited between Hoboken, NJ, and Port Jervis, NY, at speeds up to 79 mph. She pulled these excursions until 1998. She is a static display currently in Clifton Forge, Virginia, awaiting restoration.

I want to know what your favorite steam excursion is. I love steam and I know that I'm not alone on that.

Last edited by Brody B.
Original Post

Replies sorted oldest to newest

I've ridden steam excursions all over the east coast and mid-west. This ranges to the Mount Washington Cog Railway (when it was 100% steam) to N&W 611 to NKP 765 around horseshoe curve to the local museum 0-4-0T putzing along at 10 MPH, among many, many others.

My all time favorite steam train ride was this summer and is probably not what many here are thinking it may be.

I had the real pleasure to visit Greenfield Village, The Henry Ford, and ride 2 roundtrips on the Wieser Railroad - the ~ 2 mile railroad surrounding Greenfield Village in Dearborn, Michigan. The train was 3 open air cars pulled by the Thomas Edison, a 4-4-0 pieced together by Henry Ford in the 1930s from parts from several Manchester built 1800s locomotives. A super friendly crew was running that day - great group of guys. The 20 minute trip sort of reminded me about my time on the local park railroad. In the roundhouse, which can be walked through were two other operating steamers - another operable 4-4-0 and an operable 0-6-4T as well as a 4-4-2, Plymouth Switcher and GE 45 tonner. An 0-6-0 was in their "back 40" awaiting restoration. Lots of cool railroad type equipment around - coal tower, water tower, Wig-Wag crossing signals, etc

Just a really fun little operation (not to mention the Village and Museum are world-class facilities) with some really nice folks running it. The Edison was a neat loco - I forgot to ask the crew the story with the tender. It had a very "European" look to it. I wonder if it is original to the loco's building.

13934709_10154004079757933_3691516993375100534_n

 

Attachments

Images (1)
  • 13934709_10154004079757933_3691516993375100534_n

I've ridden alot of railroad excursions over the years, but a few really come to mind:

  • The Cumbres & Toltec in early fall. It's as close to a time machine as you can have, standing in the yard at Chama.

  • Behind N&W 1218, leaning out of a window in the crew car. At night, at track speed (no way I could say exactly how fast that was but we weren't creeping along) heading back to Jacksonville, FL. It felt like being inside an O Winston Link photo.

  • 4449 hauling at quite a clip, for the NRHS convention in Tacoma in 2011. I rode the ferry run from Portland as well as the Stampede Pass trips. Both were amazing (the former for speed, the latter for scenery). Stampede is 'rare mileage' as passenger traffic is uber rare there. Such a great day.

In 2 days, I'll be riding the TVRM trip to Summerville, GA (assuming the hurricane coming to the coast doesn't swing wildly to the west). I called TVRM today and was told that 4501 should be on the head end. I was hoping for a double-header with 630, but I hardly have room to complain.

Last edited by p51
SJC posted:

I've ridden steam excursions all over the east coast and mid-west. This ranges to the Mount Washington Cog Railway (when it was 100% steam) to N&W 611 to NKP 765 around horseshoe curve to the local museum 0-4-0T putzing along at 10 MPH, among many, many others.

My all time favorite steam train ride was this summer and is probably not what many here are thinking it may be.

I had the real pleasure to visit Greenfield Village, The Henry Ford, and ride 2 roundtrips on the Wieser Railroad - the ~ 2 mile railroad surrounding Greenfield Village in Dearborn, Michigan. The train was 3 open air cars pulled by the Thomas Edison, a 4-4-0 pieced together by Henry Ford in the 1930s from parts from several Manchester built 1800s locomotives. A super friendly crew was running that day - great group of guys. The 20 minute trip sort of reminded me about my time on the local park railroad. In the roundhouse, which can be walked through were two other operating steamers - another operable 4-4-0 and an operable 0-6-4T as well as a 4-4-2, Plymouth Switcher and GE 45 tonner. An 0-6-0 was in their "back 40" awaiting restoration. Lots of cool railroad type equipment around - coal tower, water tower, Wig-Wag crossing signals, etc

Just a really fun little operation (not to mention the Village and Museum are world-class facilities) with some really nice folks running it. The Edison was a neat loco - I forgot to ask the crew the story with the tender. It had a very "European" look to it. I wonder if it is original to the loco's building.

 

I'm a bit biased and like that place too but I'm glad you enjoyed your trip.  That's where I work as an engineer/fireman (not sure if I was there that day or not).  For a small 3 mile railroad, we have some tricky operating conditions such as a couple 2%+ grades and some pretty tight curves.

As for the tender that is pulled by Edison, we're fairly certain it's from the original building of the locomotive.  It's identical to the one shown behind the Manchester engine in a photo taken before it got rebuilt as the Edison we know today.  Thomas Edison owned a Portland cement quarry in New Jersey where the locomotive operated.  Henry Ford wanted a Mason 4-4-0 for his museum but none were available, so his buddy Thomas Edison gave him the Manchester 0-4-0 which was rebuilt as a 4-4-0 in the Ford Rouge plant locomotive shop in 1932.  It sat in the museum after the makeover until it was operationally rebuilt and began running in the village when the railroad was built in the early 1970's.  Since it's original rebuild, it's been modified over the years and now resembles a locomotive that would have been rebuilt in the 1930's with electric lighting and a steel cab among other changes.

Last edited by SantaFe158

Most Memorable: A family trip behind N&W 611 at the NRHS convention in Richmond VA in the 80's.  Great run-bys at Balcony Falls, rode through a forest fire, we were detoured abound a heat kinked rail, A/C failed at 95 degrees (but there were plenty of seats in the open cars, hot but so much fun) , good southern bar-b-que, ice cream from the railroad YMCA (we cleaned them out), 14+ hours behind one of the icons of steam. And a night photo session the next evening at the triple crossing to top it off.  Ahh. The good old days.

 

Earl   

Well, my favorite steam excursion is whichever one I'm going on next! However, my favorite experience behind a steam locomotive was highballing towards the Twin Cities at 55mph behind the one and only 261. I stuck my head out the baggage car door and let the wind whip through my hair (getting lots of cinders in my face as a result). I hope to repeat this experience this weekend as i ride west behind the old girl on the old Milwaukee Road mainline.

Scotie posted:

I was on several of the High Iron trips out of Hoboken, Port Jervis and Horseshoe Curve. But my favorite was on the CN from Montreal to Quebec City. Had engine trouble and got back to Montreal about 10 hours late. Can't beat the snow and the cold.

Scotie8914001289140001

I am a big fan of 6218. I even ran a fictional excursion in a simulator on Metro North's Harlem Line, from Southeastern to North White Plains. Kind of hard to do with the third rail. 

1. Chessie Steam Special; 1977-78  Ross Rowland and xRDG. #2101 roam the Chessie System.
I was lucky at the age of 18, to ride behind her twice in 1978, and also witness the train conquer Mance curve on Sand Patch in a pouring rain.

2. Any trip on the East Broad Top, I would visit 6 times from 1973-2008, I would eat more cinders on the "Eastie" than any other steam ride.

3. September 4 , 2015; on the "Phoebe Snow" and Nickel Plate #765 out of Steamtown, stalling in Nay Aug tunnel. Then experiencing one of the guttiest performances in modern times as 765 walked the train back through the tunnel, and then crawling upgrade through Dunmore. On the same trip, riding an open vestibule on "Stampede Pass" (x-NP dome) upgrade from East Stroudsburg to Mount Pocono, just enjoying open-air exposure  to a steam engine working.

Attachments

Images (3)
  • 0013
  • 5862
  • 241

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZt83PevSyM

Did you know that the Polar Express, Steam Locomotive, that is a famous Christmas Movie. Is based in Owosso, Michigan. Get all the details in this video from my YT Channel.  They have several fall tour trips and North Pole Trips. All aboard.

For more information & tickets:  http://www.michigansteamtrain.com/

Gary - Railfan 

August 31st, 1958:  Chicago, Burlington & Quincy 4-6-4 #3001, Chicago-Rock Island, via Barstow.   As was the custom on fantrips of the era, we were profoundly late leaving Barstow, and 3001 had to rip to get in at some faint approximation of a decent hour. The engineer really opened her wide, and undoubtedly we were running at the allowed steam maximum of 90 mph, maybe even a nudge more. As we raced across the farmland, with whistle screaming for rural crossings, doors would come open in farm houses, as the country folk were seemingly saying goodbye to an old friend.

I was perched in a half dutch door in the vestibule of my car, as we came curving into Mendota, IL, to drop a few passengers. It was about midnight, one lone auto pulled up to a crossing gate, otherwise the streets were empty. As we pulled out from the station, the booming exhaust ricochetted from the buildings on one side of the street, to the other, as did the whistle. Majestic !  For a 13 year old lad in the 1950's, life was never better !

Last edited by mark s

Tough one.  I've only been on two, and both were on the Cuyahoga Valley Line.  The first in 1976 and the second just a couple of weeks ago.  In 76, the 4070 pulled the train.  In 2016 it was the 767.  I was 6 the first time around and don't remember much more than "big, black, loud".  And while "big, black, loud" certainly befits a Berkshire, I obviously remember a lot more than just that.

So what's my dilemma?  There were several family members who rode the 1976 trip who are no longer with us.  I hate to play Debbie Downer, but how could I choose?

  1. Cumbres and Toltec.   The ultimate time machine.  Nothing finer than listening to a K-36 barking its way up to Cumbres Pass from Chama. 
  2. 261 excursion across the North Shore Scenic from Duluth to Two Harbors, and then across the DM&IR all the way back thru Proctor, down the hill, back to Duluth.  That excursion was somewhere around 2000. 
  3. Durango and Southern.  Absolute breathtaking scenery, and a fine railway and narrow gauge steam operation.  

Regards,

Jerry

A slow crawl for the 2 mile ride home in a boxcar, after slipping out of puiblic schools class early, then jumping off in time to calmly walk past the small group of dropped jawed private students, to say hi to my pals, making them much cooler 

Henry Ford Museum and Greenfield Village are only about 4 miles from there. They have a few engines running and retired to the musuem both.

2016-10-08 13.10.18p51 posted:

In 2 days, I'll be riding the TVRM trip to Summerville, GA (assuming the hurricane coming to the coast doesn't swing wildly to the west). I called TVRM today and was told that 4501 should be on the head end. I was hoping for a double-header with 630, but I hardly have room to complain.

 

Attachments

Images (1)
  • 2016-10-08 13.10.18
Last edited by p51

#1:  N&W #611 during the 80's and early 90's before the restoration; and 2015 & 2016 excursions after the restoration.  Awesome!

#2:  NKP #765 with the "Horseshoe Curve" special.  Memorable!

#3:  #261 pulling the New River Train excursion in West Virginia. Spectacular!

#4:  #6 Cass Scenic Railroad all the way to the top of the mountain!  Always Unique!

Add Reply

Post

OGR Publishing, Inc., 1310 Eastside Centre Ct, Ste 6, Mountain Home, AR 72653
800-980-OGRR (6477)
www.ogaugerr.com

×
×
×
×
Link copied to your clipboard.
×
×