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Scale E60 - yes. I have a later shorty with the E-7 trucks - still sharp (and a splicing

is reasonable)...but, anyway. MTH offered and then cancelled the Premier E60 years

ago.

 

I still think that a $399 0-6-6-0 or even 0-4-4-0 at a level of detail and quality

of the recent Ten-Wheeler (but LOSE the cheesy bent main rod!) would appeal

to the toy guys and us Hi-Railers alike. Of course, they could be designed to be

offered at different times with/without leading/trailing trucks, different plastic tenders...

 

A dual-motor/RK-style design (essentially the same as a diesel truck/frame) might

put off some of the pickier Hi-Railers, but should be easier to build than the single

motor/driveshaft setup. I guess.

 

A return of the Alco FB and E7 B-units, a correct nose on their F7 A units. Also a B&O GP-30, and a scale GE 44 tonner would be a hit.
Here is an idea. Considering the amount of railroads that had EMD F units in multiple paint variations, how about a one-year, low quantity production of a few paint schemes. Then the following years move on to different roadnames. This would keep interest high in their F3s for years to come.

Since the E60 was mentioned above, Bachmann released an upgraded version of its HO model a few years ago so maybe there's hope for an improved O gauge model.

 

The new HO model:

 

 

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The Bachmann HO model is a far more accurate representation of the prototype than the old Williams E60.

 

This image is from the Zealot Hobby Forums and was posted there by member Green Elite Cab.

 

Bob 

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I really don't want to see WBB as a "high railer" company - I want low cost, bang-for-the-buck, 0-27 style locos.  I would buy a conventional control 675 reissue if priced right.  I have no desire for anything articulated or a triplex or a challenger.  Basically, I want a brand new post war loco. 

 

As for the vanderbuilt tender, Lionel has one in the RTR catalog this year, but not for seperate sale. 

The Thrall Car/Budd Lo-Pac 2000 Ribbed 2-Unit or 5-Unit Articulated Intermodal Well-Cars in paint schemes and road numbers not done by K-Line correctly or ever, and all the detail parts for these cars produced as spare parts for original cars, and modern roller bearing trucks on the intermodal cars.

 

Examples of roadnames to make are Trailer Train Yellow - Santa Fe ECONO-STACK,

 1990's CN Blue, CN Red, Pacer StackTrain, and the newest red TTX graphics.

 

It would worth the effort to make a 5-Unit Thrall Lo-Pac 2000 Intermodal well car in the original exact Trailer Train markings.

 

The APL Thrall Intermodal Car is supposed to be at least a 2-Unit Articulated Car marked with 40' on the side with APL LINER TRAIN graphics. The original single unit car that K-Line made had the wrong graphics and was just a single unit. A 5-Unit Articulated APL Liner Train Car would be even Better. The blue cars were regular intermodal and the red cars were equipped with generators for refrigerated containers. They also had matching APC STACK TRAIN in blue standard and red refrigerator generator as 5-Unit Cars.

 

Andrew

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The APL Thrall Intermodal Car is supposed to be at least a 2-Unit Articulated Car marked with 40' on the side with APL LINER TRAIN graphics. The original single unit car that K-Line made had the wrong graphics and was just a single unit.

Correct. But one can Purchase the Articulated Sections at that time and make 5 since units into one articulated unit!


Same goes for the Santa Fe, FEC and the DTTX sets.


Perhaps they can take all the work they did for their GP30 - wire railings, especially, and apply that to their GP7/9 line.  I've long thought of stocking up on some GP7/9s, but the stamped railing kills it for me (I know others will disagree as stamped railings are their preference, connection to earlier years, etc).

 

Also, release their 4-6-0 in Strasburg RR livery.

 

I would also go for an E60.  I have three WBB GG1's and love them!

I have seen the real Thrall Car Lo-Pac Well cars in person during the 1990's and the K-Line graphics were close, but they reworked the markings for a single well car apperance, and left off some big graphics like "LINER TRAIN" and "STACK TRAIN".

Bachmann has put new graphics on the K-Line operating cars, so they could do the same with the Intermodal Well Cars and Intermodal Containers.

 

Andrew

Someone wanted "a brand-new postwar locomotive" from Williams. Uh, they've been

doing that for years and years already. Your wish was granted long ago.

 

Now, as they have been stepping up to hi-rail for a while also, I repeat my

wish for a scale-length E60 (the Bachmann HO all blown up), as the earlier

shorty E60 was very appealing, but, well, short (and has other flaws).

 

Again, a basic, no-frills (but frlll-able if you want to ERR it, or something),

realistic, freelance 0-6-6-0 (or even 0-4-4-0).

 

And the side rod-flailing GE scale 45-tonner would be far more appealing to the masses

than a scale 44-tonner.

I see a Mogul listed above, which would make a companion freight engine for the

WBB 4-6-0, but in the copy of MR that just floated in, there is an article on Athearn

updating the old MDC (Roundhouse) HO 2-8-0 Consolidation.  That, too, in O 3R, would make a great companion for the WBB Casey Jones.  And, like those posters above, I am waving cash for a (coal fired) Vanderbilt tender for separate sale (how many can I have?...I want to switch all my tenders out).  But while some above want an 0-6-6-0, I still am holding out for a X-4-4-X.

D500, if you bothered to read his whole post, he stated he wanted a reissue of the old 675/2025 K4 type 2-6-4 that has been long gone from the Lionel program. I am sure he is aware they offer the Turbine and Berkshire already, but thats not what he requested.  Years ago you could buy a service station set with a piece of steel from the tooling for that engine cut up.  Rumor was the tooling got dropped or was otherwise unsuitable to use anymore and thats why we never saw another of that engine after the MPC era New Englander set that had a plastic 675 type engine.

Originally Posted by coloradohirailer:

I see a Mogul listed above, which would make a companion freight engine for the

WBB 4-6-0, but in the copy of MR that just floated in, there is an article on Athearn

updating the old MDC (Roundhouse) HO 2-8-0 Consolidation.  That, too, in O 3R, would make a great companion for the WBB Casey Jones.

A Little 2-8-0 would be great. It would look great with wood 36 ft cars.  Then some 60 ft wood passenger cars for the 4-6-0 and we'd be set. Bachmann has the resources for sure....we just need to support/buy.

Williams by Bachmann does not need to put scale handrails on the GP38, they need to make the former K-Line Scale GP38-2 Diesel-Electric Locomotive in original paint schemes and lettering styles for some railroads. 

 

They have to make the Scale GP38-2 in the Chicago & NorthWestern 1980's Safety Yellow scheme.

 

 

 

The original K-Line version of the CNW GP38-2 had strange shades of Yellow and Green.

 

Andrew

Originally Posted by falconservice:

Williams by Bachmann does not need to put scale handrails on the GP38, they need to make the former K-Line Scale GP38-2 Diesel-Electric Locomotive in original paint schemes and lettering styles for some railroads. 

 

Andrew

I snatched up one of those in PRSL.   Wow was it hard to find; one of my prized engines now.

Originally Posted by falconservice:

Their Electro-Motive Division General Purpose diesel-electric locomotive has to be called a GP7/GP9 so that they can now finally offer it in new road names like Detroit, Toledo & Ironton, Illinois Terminal, Chicago & Eastern Illinois, Chesapeake & Ohio, Texas & Pacific, Frisco SL-SF, and Detroit & Toledo Shore Line. Calling it only a GP9 seems to be a mental barrier to adding new railroad paint schemes.

 

Chicago & Eastern Illnois caboose.

 

Andrew

Falconservice
The Williams GP-9 is actually a GP-7. There are subtle exterior differences between the two.  They are not detailed enough to please rivet counters and it doesn’t matter to traditional equipment operators. Williams should offer road names regardless if the prototype is a GP-9 or a GP-7

Originally Posted by chug:

I want a Peter Witt trolley painted and lettered for the Red Arrow Lines. The Red Arrow Lines was native to the Philadelphia area and Bachmann is headquartered in Philadelphia so let's have one.

 

Eric Hofberg

TCA, LCCA 

I give them credit for the PW car, as the original is still in existance, but man is that one odd design.  haha  If you had two bodies to carve up I think you'd be able to make a decent osgood bradley electromobile...

First, I am really looking forward to getting the B&M F3 which I've ordered.  It's great to see some new diesel paint schemes being offered.  Don't forget about the small Alco FA's.  No new paint in years for them, NH, CN, and SF (blue/yellow) to name few would be nice.  

 

As far as new stuff, just offer undecorated steam locomotives again.  They couldn't be too costly.  How about offering a 4-6-2 or a 2-8-2 using existing running gear. Change the tenders and a few details and offer some different looking locomotives.  Improved smoke and sound would be nice too.

 

A new generic caboose would be nice.  Finally some upgraded details and sound on the GP9's and 38's would be good.

 

Bottom line is that WBB makes excellent product but a little more variety would be welcome.        

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