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As an example of prototypical weathering...from TO website

 

The former Codelco (the Chilean national copper mining company) Potrerillos line, now operated by Ferronor, sports some of the dirtiest units I've ever seen (the UP flag units are spotless in comparison). Here are a couple of photos taken in March 2007, along with one of the units in it's light green livery in 1992 before dirt set in. 

The line in about 55 miles long with a ruling grade of 3.5% from the valley floor at Llanta up to the mine. Near the top is a series of tunnels, which keeps the units covered in exhaust soot....there is just no point in trying to keep the units clean.

 

 

    UNweathered version....

Trains978

 

 

   WEATHERED version....

Trains982

 

 

Walter M. Matuch

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Originally Posted by CentralFan1976:

For the club... the cars are weathered.

 

For my personal collection; I don't.  But I may just through a coat of dull coat on the cars eventually, just to tone down the shine.

 

Thanks,

- Mario

Mario - Great weathering!  If it wasn't for the track, I would have thought it was real.

 

Art

This is a personal choice and each hobbyist should follow his or her own muse. Do what you like!

 

I greatly admire the folks whose layouts and trains are meticulously weathered. They are consummate modelers and they present a very realistic view of life around the tracks. Their work is really art and they are accomplished artists. I love looking at their layouts, but I prefer things shiny and new.

 

I do not have the skill or inclination to weather my layout or trains which makes my decision fairly simple.

 

In my miniature world there's no graffiti, dirt, grime or old beaten up trains. I like that my trains look like they did the day they left the factory, even though that means my layout falls far short in the realism department. But I don't like it when my car is dirty either!

 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Bob Severin:
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Bob Severin:

Who wants dirty trains anyway?

I do, for one, since the REAL trains are also "dirty".

Well, cars get awfully dirty too, as do many other things.  But I clean them because I like clean,shiny things.

To be clear, we are NOT discussing "cars", i.e. automobiles, here. The original poster specifically showed photos of railroad locomotives.

Agreeing with some others, I think it's a personal issue. When I was in HO, I weathered about a third of the cars. To me, the unweathered cars looked out of place when running with the others. So, to me, it would be an all-or-nothing affair.

 

Having said that, weathering is a perfect device to camouflage that reworked and heavily modified basket-case piece of rolling stock that you bought for a few bucks and threw under the bench "until later."

 

Like Hot Water shows in his photo, the weathering is not just for the trains - it needs to be the whole layout. BTW, nice job Hot Water!

 

Neil      

"From what I can tell, the market for weathered trains is very small. When a person decides to weather his trains it is almost like a wedding vow, "Until death do us part". This is my opinion based entirely on watching the hobby these many years."

 

  Actually I think the reverse is true. when I sell trains the weathered ones sell easier and bring a much greater price. I've had cars that didn't sell go for twice what I had been asking for them after I re-list them with a bit of weathering. Of course this is only speaking about common trains for layout use. I wouldn't weather some rare vintage collectible but then I'd never have one around here anyway :> .......DaveB

I was traditionally anti-weathering but after seeing multiple images from Don Smith, Hot Water, etc I am beginning to look favorably at weathering. I am not completely on-board with weathering yet but I have begun reading the posts on weathering, air-brush, custom decals more closely than have in the past.

But what about snow? I live in IL & in winter, the leading faces of most trains seem to be covered in snow. Are there any modelers on this forum who model snow on their locomotives? While searching on Google for techniques to model snow covering I came across an image of a HO model of a Swedish locomotive that someone has replicated the snow look as the real train operates in the Arctic Circle.

 

http://www.abload.de/img/img_06730dub9.jpg

 

these are just my opinion,

Thanks,

Naveen Rajan

Originally Posted by naveenrajan:

But what about snow?

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these are just my opinion,

Thanks,

Naveen Rajan

I'd rather model Hawaii Southern Cal than the Artic!!

Snow reminds me of pain.....

It is pretty to look at for the first time each year.

It would look good in a model polar express type layout.

 Maybe use it to show scale mountain elevations?

 I think that older era model RRs should be weathered heavier. Things were pretty dirty back in the coal burning steam days right?

 I'm going to strive for the use of weathering to describe the age of my modern diesels. The newest, will be shiny clean. The oldest, should look like what they would have gone thru. Maybe some will be rebuilds??

 I don't like selling off these anyways. They're mine!! ALL MINE!!!

In my opinion and experience, i agree with daveb. Anything I have weathered sold much faster than clean cars. There is a huge market for weathered trains as most modelers i have talked with are intimidated to do it. This probably applies mostly to scale operators which have the size and detail. It is stunning when done with the surrounding lanscapes  such as Hotwater's. 

 

Ray Marion

There is always a tension between leaving a car, engine or building like new or weather it. There are people who would weather in a heartbeat just to make their layouts more realistic, but don't do so because they think it will lower the value of the piece.  Then again, what is the quality of the weathering process?  Does it really look authentic?  This is a compromise issue.  I deliberately don't weather my stuff, although there are times I wish I had just to make my layout compete with others who do.  I reconcile it with the notion of what am I going to achieve here?  If I weather and then feel bad for doing so afterward, there is no turning back.  I will feel bad and regret it.  If  I choose not to weather, I can live with the assurance that I have not made a permanent decision and can see if my intentions will change in the future.  I think if one intends to keep the piece forever and could care less about resale, then go for it and weather.  But let's face it:  even non-weathered trains will naturally weather from scratches and chipped paint from use; unless, of course, you keep 'em in a box for collectivity purposes or just display them on a shelf.  But what fun is that???

Originally Posted by Hot Water:

Modeling in the late 1940s through the mid 1950s "steam era", I prefer everything weathered. The track, the buildings, the locomotives and the rolling stock.

 

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This kind of weathering raises the hobby to a entirely different level IMO. And -- if I had the skill set -- I would do it on everything I have as well. My problem is that I would be thoroughly dissatisfied if my efforts did not meet my expectations. Something to aspire to though. I plan on being in the hobby for a long time.

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