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152 motor questions.
I have a 152 early shell and frame (needs to be repainted and rubber stamped).

I also have (I think) a #5 hump back motor (did not come with the frame and shell).

Question on the motor: Looks like on the idler gear there is a shoulder type screw instead of a nut (like my others). Was this screw ever used  instead of a nut used on the earlier 152 versions?

Just curious as I will be using this motor as it will not be a restore project but will be a rebuild/Tinplate Fantasy EngineJ

The motor works, but needs a new contact rollers assembly.

Will get one not assembled so that I could transfer the original Lionel badge to the new roller assembly and do a complete rewire. Also needs a new repro strap head light, bell and couplers.

From my reading it looks like the early 152 came with the #4 motor?
Made about 1918?

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Harry Henning posted:

Ron,

      I used to make a threaded 6:32 stud to replace the original stud w/ nut. This may be one of those conversions.  Harry

Looks like the stud was removed, the metal side of the motor may of been tapped to accept the screw with a shoulder for the gear and as you can see the screw is made for a flat screw driver. I will be taking the wheels off this weekend, spreading the frame to remove the pick up assembly. I will try to post more pictures at that point. Just curious as I never saw that before.

Hi Ron,

Checked my locos (six that I could get to quick) 150's, 152's and out of that- two have the flat head screw as you and Harry describe. But they're all type 4 motors. My 2001 Greenberg's says the type 5 motor (which is what your photo is) was used on later 152 version with stamped handrail's 1925-27. Before that only the type 4 motor.

A side note; I distinctly remember working on a humpback frame that had holes drilled for both brush holder types (4 &5) and at the time it really caught my attention. I find it hard to believe anyone could have registered and drilled those holes accurately outside of the factory? ended up tapping the unused holes for the type 4 brushes and it worked great.

Curious why replacing the bell and headlight? They don't look that bad? Original bells are really hard to find...it's like folks hoard them

 

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