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Every time I work on a postwar tender I always wondered what were the two musical notes used in the plastic whistle shell of a 2046W.  I know that seems really odd, but being a musician I felt "compelled" to figure it out.

So over the weekend I was cleaning up a 2046W and tested out each air hole individually matching it to the same note on my piano.  The lower note is a D6 while the higher note is a G6.  When these two notes are combined, the harmony they create is called a Perfect Fourth.  The word perfect is used, from early music, as describing a sound that is "pure" and "simple".  It is not considered "major" or "minor."  Composers in the Middle Ages and early Renaissance who wrote for the church were "encouraged" to use this interval in their compositions.  However, if the D6 was changed to a D-flat 6 or the G6 was changed to a G-sharp 6, it would create an interval known as a "tritone" which was absolutely forbidden in early music because its harsh sound could "invoke the devil!"

After this discovery, I wondered how the folks at Lionel came about using these two notes for their whistles.  Was a musician brought in to play some samples on an instrument?  Did a factory worker just start carving out holes in the plastic until he found a "pure" and "simple" sound?  Or did they base it off a sound heard somewhere, perhaps at a merry-go-round calliope?

Thanks for humoring me by reading this post as I "geek out"! LOL

Greg

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Thanks Greg for explaining something, I guarantee I would personally never have found out or known.  It was really interesting reading .

Best wishes...Hey...next how about analyzing the F-3 horn from the late 40's?

Don

Lol!  The F-3 horns will be another ball of wax in itself due to the screw in the back of them that adjusts the tension of the vibrating piece.  Instead of getting one note, there would likely be a "range" whether it be a pitch that can be raised or lowered (sharp or flat), or the range of a few notes.  Furthermore, some of these horns were made by Lionel while others were "outsourced" from a different company.  So there may be a discrepancy between manufacturers.

I do want to test out a metal whistle box horn and see if the notes are similar.

Stay tuned (pun intended!). LOL

Greg

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According to a couple of different websites I found with a Google search, the New York Central Hudsons and Mohawks so revered by Joshua Lionel Cowen had 6-chime whistles built by Nathan that sounded the notes C#, D#, F, G, A# and C#.  To faithfully reproduce it in the 1930s, the tender would have to be stuffed with a harmonica!

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