American Flyer 4000 information/ Redo

Also I forgot to ask, does anyone know of a source for brushes for these old AF wide gauge locomotives?

An Ives pickup plate would not be correct.  

Flyer engines never had whistles mounted on the roof.  It is possible that there is simply an extra hole, as the pantograph, bell, and light housing sound correct.  

Here are some pictures of the roof of my 4000 and the pickup assembly that says Ives on it.

I thought that when Ives went bankrupt Lionel and Flyer both bought parts of the company so, could this be an original part?

@Pete in Kansas posted:

Here are some pictures of the roof of my 4000 and the pickup assembly that says Ives on it.

I tought that when Ives went bankrupt Lionel and Flyer both bought parts of the company so, could this be an original part?

That may be a possibility.  The only reason Lionel and American Flyer bought out Ives assets was to basically get their hands on the patent for the drum reverse unit.  Parts and body shells had been mixed and matched for a few years after the joint acquisition.

Ives motors never went into anything but Ives locos  ( at least not Lionel or Flyer locos)

for wide gauge. The roof detail is complete on your 4000 Pete. Is there a track trip reverse on the bottom?

Looks like three wide spread fingers 

Rob

I haven't pulled it apart yet but there does appear to be 3 fingers that are part of the reversing switch. Did Flyer make a track accessory that would trip this to reverse? If they did would you happen to have a picture?

Thanks

   Pete

Jeff at Train Tender has the brush, springs and rivet.

brush = PA9603A

spring = PA10757

rivet = 41-69

train tender

@Pete in Kansas posted:

Rob

I haven't pulled it apart yet but there does appear to be 3 fingers that are part of the reversing switch. Did Flyer make a track accessory that would trip this to reverse? If they did would you happen to have a picture?

Thanks

   Pete

Yes there was a track attachment which activated this reverse.... called track trip reverse. Ill have to look for one for a picture... screws to track and flips up to engage fingers.

Here is a photo of the Standard Gauge track reverse trip for the 4000 and similar engines.

a photo of how it should mount

and a photo of the reverse mechanism

NWL

Thats it Thanks NWL.

Thanks everyone for all the information. Now I'll have to look for one of the track trip devices.

Today the 4000 got disassembled and stripped.

It will soon be painted in Hunter green and black reminiscent of the New haven electrics although this appears to be roughly modeled on a NYC T3 electric. 

By the way does anyone know what the tank like items on the front and rear were on the real T3's, air tanks maybe?

Also if anyone has an extra one of those track trips that Nation Wide Lines provided a picture of I would be interested in buying it.

@Pete in Kansas posted:

Today the 4000 got disassembled and stripped.

 

By the way does anyone know what the tank like items on the front and rear were on the real T3's, air tanks maybe?

Sand Barrels for traction sand

Paint work is done and the railings have been reinstalled, next comes the decals. This time I went with the lighter Hunter green so it will match the passenger cars I did recently.

Decals going on.

Painted, decaled, reassembled and ready to run. I still would like to replace the brushes so I'll order those on my next order the the Train Tender but it's ready to go as is.

OK last post on this since I now have my AF passenger train complete and running.

Here are still pictures of the 4000 and cars.

Nice looking train Pete!

Here is a listing for a track trip

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-...d:g:Q7cAAOSwII9fZ2s2