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    I'm new to this site but love tin plates, especially American Flyer wide and O gauge. I picked up this set today and found out through a few Facebook groups that it is an American Flyer 1347 Merchant set. The nice woman I got it from said it has been in her husband's family forever and has spent the last 35 years in their closet. It also included a Lionel 820 Searchlight that had been modified to use Flyer couplers. When I got it home it ran on my test track right off the bat! The drive wheels look different than any others I have seen. Has anyone ever seen replacement wheels like this before? I just need a replacement light and a good cleaning and lubing before I run it around the track. Any information about this set would be greatly appreciated.

     Thanks,

         Jon

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Those replacement wheels are either homemade or they were made by a local hobby store/machinist and are likely one-offs.  You should be able to get the proper replacement wheels from Hennings. 

Your engine also needs replacement headlight holders, as there should be a cast headlight holder on each end of the roof.  Hennings likely also has this piece.

I would replace the springs and brushes also, as the original brushes are not carbon and will cause wear to the armature and the original springs likely have little spring left.

The set was first cataloged in 1928 and was sold in 1929 also.  The set was sold in 2 configurations, the 1347, which you have, contains a 3115 engine, which has the track trip reverse unit.  My set below is set 1387, which features a 3185 engine, which has automatic reverse.

NWL

You might want to consider just leaving the wheels alone.  I agree with NWL - those are definitely custom and they appear to be very well made.  I would just let them be.

I was going to leave them be as long as they work properly. I'll just clean them up and make sure they're lubed. Hennings is out of the AF O electric wheel sets right now, they said they're making more and should be back in stock by the end of the month.I already need a set for my 3013 Bluebird engine. Thanks for the info Nation Wides Lines!

    Regards,

         Jon

I agree those look like well crafted wheels. The lump of solder on the non screw wheel may be of some concern though. My guess the two screws are for removing the wheel, take both screws out and install a two longer screws and tighten and they push wheel off axle. They also may be to facilitate in attaching a wheel puller of some kind to remove wheel. Very nice.

Frank

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@franktrain posted:

I agree those look like well crafted wheels. The lump of solder on the non screw wheel may be of some concern though. My guess the two screws are for removing the wheel, take both screws out and install a two longer screws and tighten and they push wheel off axle. They also may be to facilitate in attaching a wheel puller of some kind to remove wheel. Very nice.

Frank

Your guess of the two screws are for removing the wheels appears to be wrong.  As the original wheels have odd shaped hubs to hold the gears on to the wheels, these two screws obviously are to hold the gears on the wheels, as they only appear on the geared side of the engine. 

Those replacement wheels are either homemade or they were made by a local hobby store/machinist and are likely one-offs.  You should be able to get the proper replacement wheels from Hennings.

Your engine also needs replacement headlight holders, as there should be a cast headlight holder on each end of the roof.  Hennings likely also has this piece.

I would replace the springs and brushes also, as the original brushes are not carbon and will cause wear to the armature and the original springs likely have little spring left.

The set was first cataloged in 1928 and was sold in 1929 also.  The set was sold in 2 configurations, the 1347, which you have, contains a 3115 engine, which has the track trip reverse unit.  My set below is set 1387, which features a 3185 engine, which has automatic reverse.

NWL

Neither version of the Merchant set came with the tank car, right? I have seen sets advertised online with that car added.

      Jon

@Jon Edwards posted:

Neither version of the Merchant set came with the tank car, right? I have seen sets advertised online with that car added.

      Jon

The catalog depictions/descriptions of the Merchant set did not include a tank car.  I know one of the auction houses currently has a Merchant set with an apparent added tank car, but note the tank car in that listing has gray trucks, which signifies later production than the rest of the set.

NWL

Last edited by Nation Wide Lines

Thanks guys, I saw the set with the tank car add on that is up for auction and last month I got a nicer set box for mine that came with a couple of cars including a tank car and it got me wondering about that. It only came in the blue-green color scheme too, right? I know the older version of the 3115 had a medium blue sides with darker blue top but I'm not sure what sets used that version.

    Thanks,

         Jon

@Jon Edwards posted:

Thanks guys, I saw the set with the tank car add on that is up for auction and last month I got a nicer set box for mine that came with a couple of cars including a tank car and it got me wondering about that. It only came in the blue-green color scheme too, right? I know the older version of the 3115 had a medium blue sides with darker blue top but I'm not sure what sets used that version.

    Thanks,

         Jon

What came in the blue green color scheme?  The 3115/3185?  The tank cars came in multiple color schemes.

There is actually a rare version of the 3115 that came as a 2-tone green, but I believe it only came with Illini cars c. 1932.

NWL

@Jon Edwards posted:

Sorry I was talking about the 3115 engine. The note from the Greenberg guide says it went to a blue green which I thought was the version that I've seen. Below are two of the 3115's I have, I'm pretty sure the one on the right is a repaint with missing rails\bell\pantograph, and the wrong lights.

     Jon

The blue one on the right is repainted.  Flyer never painted a 3115 that color blue.  The 3115 and 3185 were primarily sold with the Golden State cars, which were painted to match the engine.

The later 3115 engines were more of a greenish blue, but they were still more similar in color to the original engine in your collection.  I believe the color change went along with the president's special sets in standard gauge, which also became more greenish blue.  I have one of these late engines in my collection, but will have to take a picture.

NWL

Last edited by Nation Wide Lines

The blue one on the right is repainted.  Flyer never painted a 3115 that color blue.  The 3115 and 3185 were primarily sold with the Golden State cars, which were painted to match the engine.

The later 3115 engines were more of a greenish blue, but they were still more similar in color to the original engine in your collection.  I believe the color change went along with the president's special sets in standard gauge, which also became more greenish blue.  I have one of these late engines in my collection, but will have to take a picture.

NWL

That's what I thought, I got it mainly for the frame and motor which look to be all original. Thanks for the info!

      Jon

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