Is S guage rolling stock ,smaller than 027 rolling stock....? And buy how much ...pics would help..and thanks !
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Scale proportioned S gauge engines and rolling stock are 1:64th the size of the real thing. 027 locomotives and rolling stock are smaller than 0 scale, which is 1:48th the size of the prototype; 027 equipment is no particular scale in most cases, but some of it is close in size to S gauge.
As an example, some of the earlier Marx rolling stock was 3:16th scale, or 1:64th S gauge proportioned. As a matter of fact, K- line used the old Marx tooling to make plastic 027 freight cars. K- line also used the same tooling with S gauge trucks to make S gauge freight cars by putting new trucks and couplers under the 027 bodies.
The initial answer to your question is 027 equipment is often wider and bigger than S gauge equipment, but not always.
In an upcoming article in OGR I will be talking about S gauge Marx freight cars that were marketed as O27 items.
This should be a start for you.
Hope it helps.
Ed Boyle
the Marx cattle car makes an excellent S gauge cattle car just by changing the trucks and a little filing on the ends to clear the couplers.
The Lionel double door 027 boxcar is also an excellent "instant S " car.
David two rails" Dewey,
Didn't know about the Marx cattle car
Thanks.
Always thought that the Lionel double door 027 boxcar was a little oversize for S, but I am going to give it another look.
Thanks again.
Ed Boyle
traindavid posted:The Lionel double door 027 boxcar is also an excellent "instant S " car.
Here's a scale conversion of the Lionel O27 double door boxcar:
My conversion was a little more involved than simply plopping the body on an S Scale chassis, but it stands up well to Flyer or Scale cars.
American Flyer:
American Models:
Pacific Rail Shops:
S Helper Service:
Rusty
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Fellow forum member Rusty Traque has investigated this very topic a few times. It's a topic that interests me from the 027 side, since Lionel has done so little with 027 since the MPC years, save for the recent Lionel Junction sets: A few of those cars are among the nicest decorated 027 cars Lionel has ever done.
I don't think there's any set rule or standard on this. It's a matter of individual basis. Generally, the American Flyer cars are narrower and a little shorter in height that the 027 cars. When K-Line decided to repackage their 5000-series cars (of former MARX origin). there were a good many comments at that time, that the cars were a little too large for S. But a few of them were so nicely decorated, I got them and switched out the S gauge truck sets for O gauge ones. There were a couple of dealers doing this too.
Here's a couple links to other threads Rusty has started, or usefully contributed to, on this:
https://ogrforum.com/...e-side-boxcar-is-out
https://ogrforum.com/...-scale-buildings-etc
And here's a couple more links on the topic, but not from this forum. One is from the highly recommended and useful Thor's Trains site. I like the conclusion Thor draws, that it is not only the size of the train cars, but the size of one's layout ("pike"):
Oh, while I was searching out and looking up the links, Rusty himself beat me to the punch. 
The old open auto haulers made by Lionel in O27 is perfect for S conversion.
Ray
Brianel O27,
Fascinating! While you were changing K-line, Marx derived S Gauge cars to O27 I was doing just the opposite. and wound up with some nice looking S gauge cars that didn't look like everyone else's American Flyer rolling stock.
Cool.
Ray, like your idea about the old open auto carriers too.
Ed Boyle
