CRISIS! Mogul Derails on 36" Radius Loop!

Rip it up Hal...times a wasting!

Besides lounging is over-rated anyway.

Bob

I'm with Bob.

Cheers,

Ed

HEY BOB & ED,

Thanks...a consensus is building! 

You know, even if I wasn't having derailments on that loop, I would still want to build a bigger loop anyway!

I'm happiest when I'm building or changing something!

Here's some of the tools I used when I began this project Last June:

(Not shown:  Table Saw, Band Saw, and Drill Press.)

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Ouch. Try testing it on some Atlas 40.5" fixed radius curves to see what you get. If you can squeeze it through 40.5" then you don't have to expand your benchwork as much.

HEY MATT,

I've aready made a new working drawing based on my decision to duplicate the 43" radius loop across the room. 

This will still give me enough room to relax on the sofa with a Rum & Coke on the end table while lstening to Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries" on my powerful component Stereo System!

(The 15" Speakers are in the far corners of the room, under the 48" radius turns of the layout.)

Bad Order Hal

Nice looking tool pile there BOH....ride of the who what?

Get to rebuilding that curve...that Mogul is too nice to be on the ties.

Bob

HEY BOB,

Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries" is a powerful orchestral piece from the German opera "Die Walkure", and was featured in the film "Apocalypse Now" as accompanimental music for a Helicopter attack against a VC compound.

Go to YouTube and give it a listen to!

Bad Order Hal

This makes me realize that the only alternative is to tear down the benchwork supporting the 36"loop, and rebuild it to match the 43" loop.

Hal

There is another alternative.  You could run three rail in your existing foot print.

I knew that...

  Run far run fast Hal.....

I'm glad you said it Chris. Hal is a 2 railer and thank God for that!

Bob

HEY TED,

I thank you for suggesting an alternative, but I'm committed to 2-rail because of its prototypical appearance.

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Did you find out what causes the derailment? Might it be the lead truck? Were it me, I'd check this out before I rebuilt my railroad.

I'm inclined to agree with Rex.  You should be able to coax a Mogul around 36" radius.

Some minor tweaking of the lead truck might be necessary. 

According to NMRA RP-11 steam locos with up to about 14 foot rigid wheel base should be able to go around 36" radius in OW5.

I also wonder where the cause of the derailment is at since my GEM 2-6-0's will take a good tighter curve than that, albeit a different wheelbase and driver size may be in play there.  With a bit of tweaking, they will go under around a 30" radius.

TO THOSE WHO ADVISE ME TO FIND THE REASON FOR THE DERAILMENTS.....

I appreciate your concerns, but this is the excuse I wanted all along to get rid of that undersized loop.  I've got the room for a bigger one, so why not use it?

I'm looking forward to dismantling the loop and its supports, which are 2x4's, not Lynn Westcott's "benchwork", and rebuilding that corner of the room! 

My Mogul's lead pilot wheels do have 1/4" of lateral play within their truck, but that's not important now, so ON WITH THE DEMOLITION! 

Bad Order Hal

Right on Hal....turn on that "Ride of the Valkyries" and grab your hammer! Most of all have a ball.

Bob

Watch out, with that bigger loop you might go wild and buy a GS4.

Phil

I like the way your thinking Hal...  Just remember to reward the track gang with a nice beverage after the days work.

That's great, Phil...but what's a GS4?

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HEY CHRIS,

I only hire non-union Gandy Dancers...all women!

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Pool anyone? What a room!

Good man. 

You just needed an excuse?   Get a bigger steam engine and go a big as the intersection of the walls and your budget permits......

But, I'd still want to know what aspect was the source of derailing...

That looks like the old ESPEE "Daylight" 4-8-4 Northern....same color scheme. 

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HEY GREGG,

Yep, it's a nice Game Room, and that ain't your standard-size pool table either...it's a 9' x 4-1/2' Tournament-Size Billiard Table.

As the sign on the outside says:

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HEY MWB,

You'll know right after I know...but I got some rebuilding work to do first!

The Mogul can wait!

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Yep, the only surviving GS-4...the 4449.  I'll tell ya I'm a hard core N&W,NKP and UP guy...but those Lima built GS's were a thing of beauty. 

How does the super champ (I'm guessing) fit in? Not much use for those with Wagner.....

Super Champ?

What are you referring to?

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Good grief!!!

HEY HOT WATER,

If I asked you to make a C diminished 7th chord on my Piano, would you know how?

YOU WOULDN'T?   Good Grief!!!

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And THAT is exactly why I NEVER participate on ANY Forums related to music and/or musical instruments!

HEY HOT WATER,

I guess I was out of line bringing music into a Train Forum...I'll Email you a Beer in apology!  What's your favorite suds?

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Hal,

I prefer English dark ails, stouts, and/or porters.

HEY HOT WATER,

I tried Porters once, but I much prefer Stewardesses.

You mentioned "Ail"...are you sick?   (Unless you meant "Ale")

Cheers, and tip the Landlord a Shilling, Guv!

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1) Porte is a type of dark, similar to Stout, and since there are more than one brand, I made it plural.

2) Don't know why my spell check didn't fix the "Ail" but then I haven't been feeling too well lately anyway.  But yes, "Ale" it should have been.

Guess I should have to stayed with Maker's Mark anyway.