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Have a point to point DCS display pike to build which will run down one side of a 150 foot long hallway.  Power source could be placed at either end or mid way down the hall.

 

Should individual pairs of feeds, each pair 10' longer then the other be run directly to the rail like a unwound star pattern? This will take about 560' of wire for each 75' run, 1120' total feet of 10/12 ga wire. 

 

Or could one pair of 75' 10 ga buss wires be run East and one pair of 75' 10 ga wire run West  from a mid point power supply to each end with intermittent drops along the way ala typical two rail DC? Net wire needed would be about 300' plus numerous 18 ga drops.

 

By DCS norms I believe the first method is preferred.  I am just concered if they want to move the power source it will be a major rewire revamp. 

 

What will be compromised if the straight conventional buss system is used in this case? 

 

The layouts on which I have installed star patterned wiring run flawlessly.  Never did a DCS system any other way?????

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Why not zone wire the layout. A terminal block from one TIU channel at 25' will wire the first 50'. A second block at 75' from another channel will wire the next 50' and a 3rd wire from yet another channel at 125' will wire the next 50'. The TIU can be anywhere with a wire from the output side to the terminal block. One TIU channel per block. Save 1 channel for programming.

 

The only downside is that it is not suited for conventional running.

I believe it has been suggested that one can establish blocks, separated by insulated joints on the center rail and each fed by a branch from the TIU's output (the "star wiring" technique).

 

On my test-track loop (about 11' by 17') I have two connections to the TIU, one on each side of the loop, but no blocks. I'll often hit the "start forward" horn key (two blasts) and get two sets of horn blasts. I think this is because as the digital signal travels through both power feeds before hitting the track, one being substantially longer than the other introduces just enough of a delay on the longer leg that the loco receives two commands and behaves accordingly. With shorter blocks having dedicated connections to the TIU, each track segment gets its DCS signals from one direction only.

 

---PCJ

Tom Tee;

Star wiring is preferred, However;

Buss Wiring DCS has been done successfully by Modular Clubs.

You need to add blocks and either the "magic light bulb" or an Engineered Filter at each power drop to kill all the signal bounce back from track block ends.

The Filter uses no power, the light bulbs use some power each.

 

Railride;

That is why DCS specifies one power drop per block.

I'd run the common via 10-ga buss as you describe, with, say, 15 blocks (insulated center rail only) each about 10 feet long, fed by 12-ga (longer runs) or 14-ga (shorter runs) running from the TIU output(s).  If you'll also be running conventional, I would run each hot feed through a toggle switch.

Originally Posted by F&G RY:

Why not zone wire the layout. A terminal block from one TIU channel at 25' will wire the first 50'. A second block at 75' from another channel will wire the next 50' and a 3rd wire from yet another channel at 125' will wire the next 50'. The TIU can be anywhere with a wire from the output side to the terminal block. One TIU channel per block. Save 1 channel for programming.

 

The only downside is that it is not suited for conventional running.

I like this one above however does the remote range come into play, I suppose the tiu located in the center might be the best location. track signal shouldn't be a problem but tiu/remote might be?(150 feet?? I know we did the tiu antenna modification  and can get somewhat good tiu / remote communications at  about 75 feet if pointing directly at the tiu.

we have 4 tiu in super to eliminate most range problems, You  kind of walk around the layout following your train in each tiu zone.

 

 

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