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Trying to find particular decals or dry transfers for Michigan Central and Grand Trunk and Western.  Anyone know of a place or how hard are they to make.  I see kits that you can make them with your printer.  Seems I can find just about anything else but those 2 for the steam eras. Looked into getting some made but $40-$60 for the art then another $40 for the sheet.  Just seems high when I have seen others for less than $10.  Of coarse unless I went to HO or N scale but I think we all would know how that would look.  Any help would be appreciated.

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Don't know if the period of decals you want are shown, but look here.

https://k4decals.com/search?q=grand+trunk+western

https://k4decals.com/search?q=michigan+central

For any other roads, there's a search box at the top left side of the page to type in your road name. When you click on a set of decals, you chose the scale you want and then are shown the price for that particular scale.

And one more...

https://highballgraphics.com/i.../grand-trunk-western

And yet one more, but you'll have to do some searching here. You click on the type of train and then see all the decals offered. I looked under a couple categories and didn't see any GT or MC, but that doesn't mean there aren't any OR something else that attracts you attention.

https://www.protocraft.com/Majors.cfm?ID=1#Complete

Good luck. I personally prefer screen printed decals. I've messed around doing my own on a laser jet using MicroScale blank stock with lousy results. But later I found out there is blank decal stock made specifically for laser jet printers. Still you can't print white, without buying white stock and then printing a color background (and TRYING to have the printed background color match the train car color perfectly) around the white lettering.

I've had better luck printing black decals on a Zerox type copy machine.

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@dkdkrd posted:

 

You're not alone in this.  It's one of the reasons scratchbuilding and undec. kits are skills/products of the past.  Believe it or not, but about 75 years ago there were some builders of note who hand-lettered their equipment...very credibly, too!!  Not for the faint-of-heart or shaky hand!!  (Know any beady-eyed calligraphers?)

Good luck!

KD

Yes the late Bill Lenore here in Tampa was a scratch builder who hand lettered. His work was beautiful. 

@Gene H posted:

Yes the late Bill Lenore here in Tampa was a scratch builder who hand lettered. His work was beautiful. 

A member of a two rail layout near New York City painted his cars.  One I remember is the Monarch Foods reefer with the lion face complete with whiskers.  He made a string of reefers, his name may have been Robert Wagner.     John

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I created these decals on Testor's decal paper with a clear backing.  I used AutoCAD to develop my vector art for this Williams Genesis prior to MTH or Williams offering the heritage schemes.

I had a mixed experience although they did work.  Inkjet printed decals are challenging to work with.  Solvaset, which has been my go to decal setting solution since I was 16 shriveled these up and I had to print them over.  The backing in the realm of Champ thickness, so I was finally successful with pushing the large water bubbles to the edge, letting it set up, and them applying a very small amount of Solvaset to get the "pimples" to settle down after putting a needle through them.

It was not overly expensive and you could do this artwork with any computer art tool.  Overall I was ultimately happy with the success.  Not sure if I'll do that again however.  It was frustrating at times.

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Well I think I am going with Michigan Central decals from K4.  While they will be for freight cars I think in between the logos and some dry transfer numbers I can make up my locomotive.  The big disappointment is the decals from the 30's to the 50's for Grand Trunk and Western.  I can't even find those in freight car type to use. Unless I overlooked them.  I definitely can not find any M.C.R.R. nor G.T.W. with the maple leaf in O gauge or O scale.

I thank everyone for the help thus far.

The  Solvaset I purchased decades(!) ago was finally used up, so I bought and tried some Micro Sol.

It didn't "wrinkle" the decals as much as the Solvaset, and seemed to work "okay", but only after repeated applications (4-5). Seems to me the Solvaset would do it in one or maybe 2 passes...should I have bought the "Micro Set" instead? What is the difference?

Will be getting more Solvaset (and "Goo") and do a side-by-side comparison.

Mark in Oregon

@Strummer posted:

The  Solvaset I purchased decades(!) ago was finally used up, so I bought and tried some Micro Sol.

It didn't "wrinkle" the decals as much as the Solvaset, and seemed to work "okay", but only after repeated applications (4-5). Seems to me the Solvaset would do it in one or maybe 2 passes...should I have bought the "Micro Set" instead? What is the difference?

Will be getting more Solvaset (and "Goo") and do a side-by-side comparison.

Mark in Oregon

Yes, Solvaset is the "stronger" of the 2 brands. It is my go-to decal solution, and I need some more, too. I have and use both Solvaset and Micro Sol/Set. Microscale decal film is thin (OK for HO, but thinner than I like for large O decal optimal handling).

Several years ago I used some Solvaset on some Microscale decals and it just more or less ate them up, as in wrinkling/distorting. I never saw this again - or before - but I try to keep it away from Microscale decals.

K4 decals are excellent. I think that I have used Solvaset and Micro Sol on them. I'm not doing much decaling right now.

I still miss Champ and especially Rail Graphics, a lot. Good decal film thickness. 

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@D500 posted:

Yes, Solvaset is the "stronger" of the 2 brands. It is my go-to decal solution, and I need some more, too. I have and use both Solvaset and Micro Sol/Set. Microscale decal film is thin (OK for HO, but thinner than I like for large O decal optimal handling).

Several years ago I used some Solvaset on some Microscale decals and it just more or less ate them up, as in wrinkling/distorting. I never saw this again - or before - but I try to keep it away from Microscale decals.

K4 decals are excellent. I think that I have used Solvaset and Micro Sol on them. I'm not doing much decaling right now.

I still miss Champ and especially Rail Graphics, a lot. Good decal film thickness. 

Thanks for chiming in; I guess it wasn't just me after all! 

Interesting what you say about Solvaset and Microscale decals; I have used them together with no problems. Maybe I've just been lucky...

Mark in Oregon

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