Trying to find particular decals or dry transfers for Michigan Central and Grand Trunk and Western. Anyone know of a place or how hard are they to make. I see kits that you can make them with your printer. Seems I can find just about anything else but those 2 for the steam eras. Looked into getting some made but $40-$60 for the art then another $40 for the sheet. Just seems high when I have seen others for less than $10. Of coarse unless I went to HO or N scale but I think we all would know how that would look. Any help would be appreciated.
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Don't know if the period of decals you want are shown, but look here.
https://k4decals.com/search?q=grand+trunk+western
https://k4decals.com/search?q=michigan+central
For any other roads, there's a search box at the top left side of the page to type in your road name. When you click on a set of decals, you chose the scale you want and then are shown the price for that particular scale.
And one more...
https://highballgraphics.com/i.../grand-trunk-western
And yet one more, but you'll have to do some searching here. You click on the type of train and then see all the decals offered. I looked under a couple categories and didn't see any GT or MC, but that doesn't mean there aren't any OR something else that attracts you attention.
https://www.protocraft.com/Majors.cfm?ID=1#Complete
Good luck. I personally prefer screen printed decals. I've messed around doing my own on a laser jet using MicroScale blank stock with lousy results. But later I found out there is blank decal stock made specifically for laser jet printers. Still you can't print white, without buying white stock and then printing a color background (and TRYING to have the printed background color match the train car color perfectly) around the white lettering.
I've had better luck printing black decals on a Zerox type copy machine.
I have used K4Decals with good success. i would also recommend Micro Set Solutions to help in placing the decals. There are You Tube videos on how to use Micro Set Solutions which I would suggest viewing before beginning project. Good luck with your project.
If you are near a school with an Art Department, ask the professor for the names of a couple of students who may be interested in lettering your toys. College students are always looking for ways to pick up some pocket change. John
@dkdkrd posted:
You're not alone in this. It's one of the reasons scratchbuilding and undec. kits are skills/products of the past. Believe it or not, but about 75 years ago there were some builders of note who hand-lettered their equipment...very credibly, too!! Not for the faint-of-heart or shaky hand!! (Know any beady-eyed calligraphers?)
Good luck!
KD
Yes the late Bill Lenore here in Tampa was a scratch builder who hand lettered. His work was beautiful.
Clover House lists a Michigan Central boxcar dry transfer set.
@Gene H posted:Yes the late Bill Lenore here in Tampa was a scratch builder who hand lettered. His work was beautiful.
A member of a two rail layout near New York City painted his cars. One I remember is the Monarch Foods reefer with the lion face complete with whiskers. He made a string of reefers, his name may have been Robert Wagner. John
I created these decals on Testor's decal paper with a clear backing. I used AutoCAD to develop my vector art for this Williams Genesis prior to MTH or Williams offering the heritage schemes.
I had a mixed experience although they did work. Inkjet printed decals are challenging to work with. Solvaset, which has been my go to decal setting solution since I was 16 shriveled these up and I had to print them over. The backing in the realm of Champ thickness, so I was finally successful with pushing the large water bubbles to the edge, letting it set up, and them applying a very small amount of Solvaset to get the "pimples" to settle down after putting a needle through them.
It was not overly expensive and you could do this artwork with any computer art tool. Overall I was ultimately happy with the success. Not sure if I'll do that again however. It was frustrating at times.
Good luck with your project!
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Well I think I am going with Michigan Central decals from K4. While they will be for freight cars I think in between the logos and some dry transfer numbers I can make up my locomotive. The big disappointment is the decals from the 30's to the 50's for Grand Trunk and Western. I can't even find those in freight car type to use. Unless I overlooked them. I definitely can not find any M.C.R.R. nor G.T.W. with the maple leaf in O gauge or O scale.
I thank everyone for the help thus far.
I have also used K4 decals they are reasonably priced, good quality and shipped quickly they are purchased on E-Bay. Also check the Tichy Train Group Decals they have a set of decals for a 2 bay GTW cement covered hopper car.
Can anyone make me a custom set of decals for my Christmas trains? I've tried Microscale and K4 and they don't do them. I'd pay you for your work. My e-mail is: Paulefudd@hotmail.com
I'd likely need a few sets for tenders, and black transfers to cover up existing roadnames.
Thanks.
Paul Let me know what you find out. So far the going rate I have found is around $40-$50 to have them made and another $40-$50 to have them printed.
The Solvaset I purchased decades(!) ago was finally used up, so I bought and tried some Micro Sol.
It didn't "wrinkle" the decals as much as the Solvaset, and seemed to work "okay", but only after repeated applications (4-5). Seems to me the Solvaset would do it in one or maybe 2 passes...should I have bought the "Micro Set" instead? What is the difference?
Will be getting more Solvaset (and "Goo") and do a side-by-side comparison.
Mark in Oregon
@Strummer posted:The Solvaset I purchased decades(!) ago was finally used up, so I bought and tried some Micro Sol.
It didn't "wrinkle" the decals as much as the Solvaset, and seemed to work "okay", but only after repeated applications (4-5). Seems to me the Solvaset would do it in one or maybe 2 passes...should I have bought the "Micro Set" instead? What is the difference?
Will be getting more Solvaset (and "Goo") and do a side-by-side comparison.
Mark in Oregon
Yes, Solvaset is the "stronger" of the 2 brands. It is my go-to decal solution, and I need some more, too. I have and use both Solvaset and Micro Sol/Set. Microscale decal film is thin (OK for HO, but thinner than I like for large O decal optimal handling).
Several years ago I used some Solvaset on some Microscale decals and it just more or less ate them up, as in wrinkling/distorting. I never saw this again - or before - but I try to keep it away from Microscale decals.
K4 decals are excellent. I think that I have used Solvaset and Micro Sol on them. I'm not doing much decaling right now.
I still miss Champ and especially Rail Graphics, a lot. Good decal film thickness.
@D500 posted:Yes, Solvaset is the "stronger" of the 2 brands. It is my go-to decal solution, and I need some more, too. I have and use both Solvaset and Micro Sol/Set. Microscale decal film is thin (OK for HO, but thinner than I like for large O decal optimal handling).
Several years ago I used some Solvaset on some Microscale decals and it just more or less ate them up, as in wrinkling/distorting. I never saw this again - or before - but I try to keep it away from Microscale decals.
K4 decals are excellent. I think that I have used Solvaset and Micro Sol on them. I'm not doing much decaling right now.
I still miss Champ and especially Rail Graphics, a lot. Good decal film thickness.
Thanks for chiming in; I guess it wasn't just me after all!
Interesting what you say about Solvaset and Microscale decals; I have used them together with no problems. Maybe I've just been lucky...
Mark in Oregon
I have found you can use Solvaset with Microscale decals but you have to start removing it within about 30 seconds where Micro Sol might take 3 minutes for the same effect. I would only use it for very rough surfaces like outside ribs or tall rivets.
Pete
Anyone ever try the decal solvents from Micro Mark.