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I bought a post war F3 unit on the Bay that seems to be stuck in neutral.  The e unit seems to be working correctly, but when I took apart the motor to check it out, I realized that one of the brushes was longer than the other.  One measures about 4/10 of an inch and the other about 3/10 of an inch, which to me seems like a lot.  Before I buy a new set, could this have caused the engine to be stuck in neutral?

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Because of the size of the brushes I would recommend replacing them. But first clean the brushes up with a pencil eraser and make sure the brushes have good contact pressure against the armature and also that the armature is clean of dirt.

Take the brushes to a Lionel parts person and he/she should be able to match you up with a set of brushes. Don't go to an electric motor supply place as they deal with large horsepowered motors only and won't have what you need, I tried that one time.

 

Lee F.

Without more info it would be hard to say what brush you need. The F 3's used at least 2 different types. Did your brushes have springs on the back, or were they just plain brushes? There were horizontal motors and vertical motors. Don't even bother cleaning brushes. Toss them and get new ones. Clean the brush tubes well also. The E unit can appear to cycle correctly but still not work. You probably have bad, or very corroded fingers or drum in the E unit and that likely was your biggest problem. What is the cab number at the front?

Rob

As far as I know, two different style brushes were used.

 

Early motor used this:

 

If the brushes have coil springs behind them to press them against the commutator, then the brushes are 2020M-33, with spring 2020M-34.

 

Most motors used this:

 

If the brushes have hair springs mounted in the brush holder to press them against the commutator then the brushes are 622-121, with springs 622-191

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