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I'm curious to see if this is a popular scheme and if so, why do you think no one has ever made F3/F7 units in this paint scheme? I'd also love to see a set of MTH premier passenger cars as well to mix with the current scheme if one wanted to create a late 60's consist. I was actually surprised MTH released a set of green Burlington Northern passenger cars (although Railking) before they made a BSB GN set.

 

I'm also curious as to why no one has made Burlington Northern F units and why MTH hasn't made anything in the yellow MILW/UP scheme. Lionel has dipped their toe into the MILW realm with the E9 release and maybe soon to be released 18" cars. MTH seems to make some fairly niche road names as well as main stream releases so I figured by now they'd have attempted to sell some of these. I'm sure there are others besides me that would purchase. 

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O-scale BN F-units -

 

...have been made. I have one. F9. Early Atlas. Got for $20 (boxed) at a swap meet. Green with what appear to be white letters, silver-ish "hockey stick".

 

These are "2-rail" locos, mostly plastic, weighted, good tool-and-die work. The

truck-mounted motor (two?) is easily removed (I've done it on a similar loco),

making for a nice dummy. The flanges/wheels are adequate for 3-rail environments,

especially if pulled.

 

It has (I'm looking at it) the Atlas Lionel-compatible dummy couplers, front and rear,

so find one, take out that motor, plop the dummy on the track and off you go.

 

The graphics are not up to current standards, but for cheap, they'll do. I was going to

paint it, but I'm not sure. Probably never get to it, anyway.

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I'm with those who have no fondness for the blue scheme. It was a sad day when the GN abandoned their wonderful green and orange livery for the blue, IMHO.

 

An old retired railroader I used to know called the blue livery (like GN and Rock Island) "Loser Blue." A railroad changes to blue livery, and soon goes out of business!  

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I took the picture below back in 1970.  At the time I didn't appreciate it because I liked the earlier paint schemes.  Later I realized how lucky I was to get three paint schemes in one photo, especially in St. Louis.

 

Some of the most interesting passenger trains were in the Amtrak transition era when the trains were a hodge podge of paint schemes.

 

I don't model the era of the Blue Sky scheme, but it should be produced.  That can be a very interesting era but unfortunately companies like to sell homogenous passenger trains.  Like Mill City's picture above, if you could see the whole train with a consist of mixed paint schemes, to me, I find them very appealing.

 

 

 

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MTH has to produce the EMD SD45 in the Great Northern Big Sky Blue scheme next year. There were more Big Sky Blue SD45s than there were dark green and orange SD45s, so they have to make the GN Big Sky Blue SD45 for both the Premier and the RailKing line in 2015 and 2016.

GN Big Sky Blue SD45

 

 

New Big Sky Blue paint scheme

 

 

The SD45 was used to pull the EMPIRE BUILDER.

 

GN blue Empire Builder

 

 

The Big Sky Blue SD45s will pull matching passenger trains and matching freight trains.

 

 

Andrew

The Great Northern 50' Plug-Door Box Cars have been made in HO Scale and N Scale.

It is time to duplicate them in O Scale.

 

The GN Big Sky Blue scheme was so durable that the Burlington Northern employees did not have to repaint them, until the BNSF merger.

 

GN plug-door box car

 

 

This Great Northern Blue box car is preserved in Minnesota at the Jackson Street Roundhouse.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Preserved box car

I liked the BSB scheme on the big 2nd generation power, especially the F45's and the U-33C's. (These were never painted in orange/green anyway...) 

 

The BSB paint on the earlier MTH models was terrible. The blue was Conrail blue (too dark) and the top was gloss black when it should have been dark charcoal gray. The white nose striping was completely wrong on the MTH BSB GP-30's.

 

I probably would buy a BSB F3 set if offered including cab #367A. I got to ride in this cab on the morning northbound International in March of 1968, at age 13. There isn't anything better (for me) than riding under the air horns of an F3 at 79MPH, no matter what color it is!

 

I think I would be in for some BSB wood chip cars, too, if offered.

 

Note to manufacturers: If you make a BSB passenger set, remember that there were no sky blue Observation cars! GN removed them after 1966. The "Mountain" series cars remained in storage, painted orange and green, until after the formation of BN and Amtrak. 

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For freight I like BSB scheme, Passenger I not sure. The BSB F7 looks good The GP7/9 no. The one thing they should of never done, was have a sign ( for lack of a better term) attached to the railings of the freight engines. It looks cheap to me. It would have been better to paint the lettering and logo on the side of the engines.

Originally Posted by The GN Man:

I liked the BSB scheme on the big 2nd generation power, especially the F45's and the U-33C's. (These were never painted in orange/green anyway...) 

 

The BSB paint on the earlier MTH models was terrible. The blue was Conrail blue (too dark) and the top was gloss black when it should have been dark charcoal gray. The white nose striping was completely wrong on the MTH BSB GP-30's.

 

I probably would buy a BSB F3 set if offered including cab #367A. I got to ride in this cab on the morning northbound International in March of 1968, at age 13. There isn't anything better (for me) than riding under the air horns of an F3 at 79MPH, no matter what color it is!

 

I think I would be in for some BSB wood chip cars, too, if offered.

 

Note to manufacturers: If you make a BSB passenger set, remember that there were no sky blue Observation cars! GN removed them after 1966. The "Mountain" series cars remained in storage, painted orange and green, until after the formation of BN and Amtrak.  One of the above pics posted with the caption The Big Sky Blue SD45s will pull matching passenger trains and matching freight trains. If you look close there are 3 dome cars painted BSB.

 

Originally Posted by suzukovich:

For freight I like BSB scheme, Passenger I not sure. The BSB F7 looks good The GP7/9 no. The one thing they should of never done, was have a sign ( for lack of a better term) attached to the railings of the freight engines. It looks cheap to me. It would have been better to paint the lettering and logo on the side of the engines.

I'm spitballing here, but I wonder if that was done in anticipation of the merger. It would have been easy to pull the signboard and apply permanent lettering once the merger was officially blessed by the ICC.

 

Jeff C

Lots of good thoughts in this thread, thanks. I do agree that MTH should release an SD45 too in BSB as GN had many in that scheme at the end. Maybe BN and GN F units are on the map for the next year or two ... 

 

Hopefully we'll see a BSB F3/7 set and some premier passenger cars in the same year that even includes an observation car to appeal to the people that just like the color etc. and want it. We don't have to run the observation car if we don't want. I think that's why it's included in every 5 car set from MTH.  

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