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With prior apologies to Rich Melvin...

 

Over the years as I have visited large and small train layouts, I have noticed that many operators keep basically to one diesel or perhaps an A-B-A locomotive consist for each train. This may be ok, but for me...I like to mix-up my lash-up!

 

My favorite railroad, the Jersey Central, was a good source of reference material for my diesel recipe. After standardizing/modifying the MU receptacles on their EMD, ALCO and FM freight and road switcher diesels (and later on some Baldwins) in the late 1950's/early 1960's, every CNJ freight train could be a new diesel recipe.

 

Since RMT, Weaver, Atlas, MTH and Lionel all offer different diesel models within their respective product line...do you ever mix-up your lash-up? By staying with a certain toy train manufacturer, this can help prevent any potential compatibility issues with regards to motors and gearing.

 

Try it and enjoy a tasty result. Let's see in your photos and hear your comments.

 

CNJ 58 + 2 RS-3 Allentown, PA 11-17-1963

EMD F-3A + F-3B and ALCO RS-3 + RS-3

 

CNJ 1521 + 1527 + RS-3

EMD GP-7 + GP-7 and ALCO RS-3

 

CNJ 1529 in Philly 1956

EMD GP-7 + ALCO RS-3 + F-M H24-66...a real mixed bag!

 

CNJ 1701 + 2 Eport, NJ 2-26-1968

ALCO RS-3 + EMD F-7A

 

CNJ 1702 + 2 Phila, PA 2-10-1957

ALCO RS-3 + RS-3 and F-M H24-66

 

CNJ 1707 + 2401 Phila, PA 5-30-1961

ALCO RS-3 + F-M H24-66

 

CNJ 2413 + 3 Woodburne, PA 11-12-1964

F-M H-24-66 and EMD F-7A + F-7A + F-7A

 

CNJ 2511 + RSD-4 + F7A Bethlehem, PA 2-11-1968

EMD SD-35 and ALCO RSD-4 and EMD F-7A

 

NOTE: All Photos from North Jersey NRHS

 

Thanks.

 

Walter M. Matuch

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  • CNJ 58 + 2 RS-3 Allentown, PA 11-17-1963
  • CNJ 1521 + 1527 + RS-3
  • CNJ 1529 in Philly 1956
  • CNJ 1701 + 2 Eport, NJ 2-26-1968
  • CNJ 1702 + 2 Phila, PA 2-10-1957
  • CNJ 1707 + 2401 Phila, PA 5-30-1961
  • CNJ 2413 + 3 Woodburne, PA 11-12-1964
  • CNJ 2511 + RSD-4 + F7A Bethlehem, PA 2-11-1968
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I was told by an NYC expert, that they did not mix mfg in lashups until after they locos went through their first major overhaul.  At that point the MU hookups were standardized.   This was usually about 15 years into the life.   Also as built, none of the covered wagons (F3, F7, Alco Fa etc) had MU recepticles on the nose.   At least I was told that and it is true of Pennsy which I researched.    Again after the first major overhaul, they got those also.   

 

What it means is that most or all RRs did not do much mixing, at least across brands in the later 40s to sometime into the late 50s or early 60s.   After that they did it a lot.

 

As for roadnames, there was not nearly as much run-through power in the old days - 40s-60s as there is today.   There were some special instances such as the shared train that the PRR and NYC ran from Elmira NY to someplace.   It ran with NYC power one week, and PRR the next.    There are probably other examples where RRs might have mixed power in those days too, but I think they are rare. 

 

Today on the other hand there is a whole lot of it.

During the early diesel era, railroad seldom mixed manufactures. Later they mixed manufactures and models almost indiscriminately, except for Baldwins. Baldwin locomotives had an oddball MU system that was incompatible with any other manufacture.
Early Lionel Odyssey engines don’t play well with others so I usually run them with MTH dummies. I particularly like running newer locos with older models from a different manufacture. With sound units, I like to MU an EMD with its 2 cycle high revving prime movers with an Alco or GE with its slow revving 4-stroke prime mover. It creates an unusual tone.  

Rich...I know from first hand experience that handrails do bend! After startup of CR in 1976, was called as Conductor for an extra turnjob to run lite from Dover to Pburg, NJ for our train. Had a trio (is that word ok?) of SD-45s...2 ex-RDG and 1 ex-EL. Even though the ex-RDGs were dual controls, the engineer wanted short hood forward for the trip over dark territory to Pburg. So we ran around the RDG + EL pair with the other RDG unit. New brakeman forgot to unhook the safety chains on walkway between the EL and RDG units...pulled the entire front grabrails off the RDG unit! After a bit, he noticed the sparks from the dangling handrails too! Wrote it up as bent handrails on inspection report and never heard anything about it later.

 

By the way we did have to get some rope at a local True Value to 'lash-up' the handrails anyway.

 

Here is the RDG unit WITH handrails.

 

rdg7601

 

Walter M. Matuch

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Union Pacific sometimes ran sets of DD40 - SD40 - DD40. The SD40 would be an 8000-series SD40-2 with higher gear ratio like the DD40's so they could cruise at 70mph or a little better. Apparently it was just the right HP combo for many of the long-haul hotshots. Some railfans called this consist a "Big Mac".

  

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