Originally Posted by CWEX:
When you do unlatch the throttle doesn't it "want" to close?
No.
Rusty
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by CWEX:
When you do unlatch the throttle doesn't it "want" to close?
No.
Rusty
Rusty,
That depends on what type of throttle arrangement the steam locomotive has. I know for a fact that with the American Multiple Valve Front End Throttle, when the Engineer's throttle lever is around half open to 3/4 open, when the latch is "squeezed", it will pull the unsuspecting "guest Engineer" forward right out of the seat (at least on 4449, 844, and 3985 anyway). Dome throttles probably do NOT do that.
Originally Posted by Matt Kirsch:
You have beat on me and said I was dead wrong on everything right along here. I give.
You got "beat on" because you're one of those folks who just HAS to be right, so you speak like you have great experience and insider knowledge in the things you're talking about, and yet it's perfectly clear to all the rest of us that you have absolutely none.
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by CWEX:
When you do unlatch the throttle doesn't it "want" to close?
No.
Rusty
Rusty,
That depends on what type of throttle arrangement the steam locomotive has. I know for a fact that with the American Multiple Valve Front End Throttle, when the Engineer's throttle lever is around half open to 3/4 open, when the latch is "squeezed", it will pull the unsuspecting "guest Engineer" forward right out of the seat (at least on 4449, 844, and 3985 anyway). Dome throttles probably do NOT do that.
I stands corrected. Dome throttles are what I'm used to.
Rusty
Ok, thank you for the information guys...I wasn't sure.
Originally Posted by CWEX:
When you do unlatch the throttle doesn't it "want" to close?
Yes...at anything less than about 2/3 throttle. Above that point it stays put when unlatched.
Excellent, thanks Rich.
There is a Rail Trail near me called the Maple Highlands trail. It is built on the former B&O Lakebranch that operated between Warren and Fairport Harbor, OH. The B&O operated this short ~60 mile branch similar to their mountain divisions due to the grades and curves along a short stretch of the branch near Swine Creek.The branch existed to move coal from areas southeast of Ohio to the car dumper at Fairport. From here it went to various destinations along the great lakes.
After the B&O main was dieselized, the EM-1's were sent to work on this branch and the branch to the port at Lorain, OH. The typical operation on the Fairport Harbor branch required two EM-1's to get the heavy trains up the grade and curves at Swine Creek. The helper could either be at the front or the rear.
On at least one occasion the B&O attempted a triple header with all three locomotives on the head end that resulted in a wrecked car only a few cars back from the engines. There is a still photo of this on a video released from Revelation Video titled B&O Lake Line.
This stretch of the former line is extremely rugged. The line was originally built as a narrow gauge railroad and at the location along Swine Creek there are a few spots where the line is high on a ledge above the creek. When the B&O acquired the Narrow Gauge railroad they made the existing row "just big enough" to handle standard gauge cars and locomotives. The section along Swine Creek still maintained an almost 2% grade with very sharp curves.
The row along Swine Creek is a nature trail now and I am amazed when walk this part of the line that locomotives as large as an EM-1 would operate here. Sadly, due to the erosion that has taken place along this section there are no plans to extend the paved portion of the trail through this area.
Andrew
Originally Posted by colorado hirailer:
On another thread, there is a question about running multiple units on the same train and keeping them in sync....
so..how did they do this in the steam era, on the protoype, without broken couplers and derailments...with the Rio Grande once using four or five little steamers to huff trains over a pass, some cut into the middle of a train. Tehachapi loop in Calif. was once noted for the same? Modern diesels are interconnected.....
