Erie Imperial Triplex stuck in reverse

Mth premierp Erie trplex 4 cars caboose set from 2017

Using it in conventional or dcs?

Dcs issues I encountered.

I had issues with mine at first when I started running it new out of box using mth dcs, z4000.  The engine could not be found by the remote,  couldn't read engine on track, no engine # and info,  yet would respond to thumbwheel only for speed control.  No other commands would work, brand new out of the box.

Let it rest for a few months, disconnected all mth tv's equipment, ran it conventional with z4000 for a while, okay so far, hooked up all mth dcs , did read on controlled, found it gave it is #, everything ok for now.

You may be able to reset it with the engine on the" Move" with the Horn bell combination. Maybe around 10 volts.

Does this one have a battery?

It's likely locked in one direction.  Operate in conventional, turn the smoke unit off and throttle up.  Lower the voltage as low as it will go, but is still moving (8-9 volts).  Press the whistle button, then the bell button three times.  You should get a confirmation double whistle blast, if successful.  It will likely take multiple tries.  Once unlocked, operation in F-N-R should be restored.

Should have added using in conventional mode.

Melvin P posted:

Should have added using in conventional mode.

 

Did you try to unlock with the engine moving?

Has one or  more of the eccentric cranks slipped out of their notches in the drivers causing the running gear to not be quartered preventing the free turning of all the drivers?

Melvin

Try factory and feature resets. Both can be done conventionally and with DCS. 

L.I.TRAIN posted:

Melvin

Try factory and feature resets. Both can be done conventionally and with DCS. 

Can't get into neutral to do that.

Gregg posted:

Melvin P posted:

Should have added using in conventional mode.

 

Did you try to unlock with the engine moving?

NO, I will give that  try.   what can it hurt,.

Jon G posted:

It's likely locked in one direction.  Operate in conventional, turn the smoke unit off and throttle up.  Lower the voltage as low as it will go, but is still moving (8-9 volts).  Press the whistle button, then the bell button three times.  You should get a confirmation double whistle blast, if successful.  It will likely take multiple tries.  Once unlocked, operation in F-N-R should be restored.

I 'll try that, did to ry multiple times, only once or twice.  I'll just keep going till something does something.

Gregg posted:

Does this one have a battery?

Possibly very relevant question that hasn't been answered and could be related to the problem.  If a PS2 w/ low battery, operating problems will likely occur.  If a PS3 w/o battery then the problem and remedy could be elsewhere.  MTH model number (20-xxxx-x) also helps target responses.

Keystone posted:

Gregg posted:

Does this one have a battery?

Possibly very relevant question that hasn't been answered and could be related to the problem.  If a PS2 w/ low battery, operating problems will likely occur.  If a PS3 w/o battery then the problem and remedy could be elsewhere.  MTH model number (20-xxxx-x) also helps target responses.

I assume it has a battery as it takes time to "boot up"  They system is Proto 2, using on conventional with Z4000 transformer, with program button (???) The model # is not in the owners manual.

Melvin P posted:

 The model # is not in the owners manual.

On the box end.

Guys, thanks for all the input.  I am going let the engine sit for 10 days, then try again.  Hopefully something will happen.

Melvin P posted:

Guys, thanks for all the input.  I am going let the engine sit for 10 days, then try again.  Hopefully something will happen.

Hopefully ... This is a tough one because we don't know what engine you have outside of it's a triplex. Could be proto-2 (battery) , proto 3 ( no battery) rail king or  premier version?  What the cab number?   You could also have a faulty board....  Time will  eventually tell... good luck.

Melvin

Not so sure what a 10 day rest will do for the engine, Try calling MTH Service for a Service authorization and have them fix it.  Or chime in here on the forum for an authorized MTH Service person. There are several here on the forum

The Triplex is fully operational.  Thank You to all who responded and helped.  What a great forum.

hi so what did you do to get it working I'm sure were all curious?

Alan  

It  was a simple matter of time between taps with the horn and whistle button,  I was not fast enough.  Must be rapid fire taping,  MTH tech rep was most helpful.  Happy that was all it was.  Once again, thank you all.  Wonderful guys.

Melvin,

Must be rapid fire taping

The timing is 1/2 second presses with 1/2 second pauses in-between.

Melvin P posted:

It  was a simple matter of time between taps with the horn and whistle button,  I was not fast enough.  Must be rapid fire taping,  MTH tech rep was most helpful.  Happy that was all it was.  Once again, thank you all.  Wonderful guys.

 

 

Thanks for the update. Over &  out.

Melvin P I tried to contact you about items F/S on the buy/sell forum but your email doesn't work. Contact me by my email in my profile.

Bob