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I am the owner of an ERR Cruise Commander V4.1 board and an ERR RailSounds kit.  The Cruise Commander is installed in a Williams “J” and the RailSounds board is installed in its tender with a 6-wire tether between.  Since its original installation it has not worked properly.  The Cruise Commander was returned to ERR.  The problem reported was the non-responsiveness of the “Bell” and “smoke-on” (Alt-9) Cab-1 commands getting worse the longer the system has power.   I was told that the board was OK.  I learned to live with the problem. 

The problem is now getting noticeably worse.  “Shutdown” (Alt-5) and “turn-on/steam” (Alt-3) are unreliable.  They follow the same pattern as the originally reported “smoke-on” and “bell” problems, everything works great during the first 10 minutes and then everything becomes increasingly non-responsive.

As a test I disconnected the RailSounds board from the Cruise Commander by disconnecting the engine-tender tether.  I also disconnected the front lamp and smoke unit. I used the voltage at the feature pin (smoke) as an indication of response.  At the beginning all (Alt 3, 5, 9) worked well.  After about 10 minutes all were intermittently unresponsive.  Does anyone have any ideas as to the cause of this problem or how to fix it?

I have been focused on the Cruise Commander board, but could the problem be in the attached R2LC board?  Can I use the R2LC board from another Lionel engine as a test without hurting the borrowed board?

 

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Thanks for your help.  I have 2 Cab-1 controls with the same result from both.  I have no problem using either control with any of my other engines.

A problem with the R2LC is a possibility.  The placement of the antenna outside the engine shell seems to be critical.  I tried running the engine without its cover so the antenna could be repositioned easily and without cover interference.  Antenna position and length was more critical than I think it should be.  The R2LC is rev 8 so I will try exchanging it with an R2LC rev 8 from a good engine and see if the problem follows the board.  I will post an update.

What sound system are you using?  Part of this sounds like a corruption of the serial data that I have experienced mixing and matching parts.

Obviously with Brass engines, the antenna must be outside the shell, or the shell must be insulated.  Surprised the CC is not inside tender too???

If none of the above work, unplug Rail Sounds from power and serial data and run engine.  See if smoke control, rear coupler and other functions now work. 

If they do you can try attaching serial data to the R2LC pin, vice using the 4 pin connector on the CC.  You can get power from the 4 pin, but use serial data direct from the R2lC via the header pin.  Just like Lionel does, without those buffers ERR installed on the CC.  G

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