FANDOR STREAMLINER, WINDUP, O SCALE

I've got some info - you are a lucky guy to score something like that.

I love streamlined steam and unusual stuff like that.

Have fun with it.

thanks, so whatcha got?

I think that was freindly sarcasm driven by jealousy.....? Hard to tell with RoyBoy, he may post a whole manual if he can.

I know I'm having trouble with you owning it while my shelf stays bare

Nice find.

According to the book "Clockwork, Steam and Electric" this train, based on the German Baureihe 05 streamliner, was made by BUB; in the reprint of this book however it is attributed to Kraus (or Kraus Fandor). At the side of the cab (not recognicable in your picture) JKC for Joseph Kraus Co, should be printed. The Baureihe 05 was made in Germany in 1935 and set a speed record in 1936, so your train is made somewhere after 1935, but I assume still prewar.

Kraus Fandor made (at least) two versions of this streamliner, a smaller one and the larger one you have, which has number 05001 (which I assume it as the front of the locomotive, but not recognisable in your picture). I do not think it came originally with 5 coaches (I wonder if it will pull these). I have seen it (in pictures) with 2 coaches.

Regards

Fred

sncf231e posted:

Kraus Fandor made (at least) two versions of this streamliner, a smaller one and the larger one you have, which has number 05001 (which I assume it as the front of the locomotive, but not recognisable in your picture). I do not think it came originally with 5 coaches (I wonder if it will pull these). I have seen it (in pictures) with 2 coaches. ...

nice!  assuming these might be the auction photos, would be great to see better shots when you get it(?)  ...if the shell is easy to pop off, maybe the motor, too?

here's a cropped shot verifying that number...

...or at least the 0500-- part.

did i already say nice?
cheers...gary

overlandflyer posted:

sncf231e posted:

 

  ...if the shell is easy to pop off, maybe the motor, too?

here's a cropped shot verifying that number...

...or at least the 0500-- part.

cheers...gary

Note that this is a clockwork locomotive (so it is a clockwork motor) and I assume it is put together with bended tabs, so not easy to disassemble.

And indeed it looks like 05001!

Regards

Fred

sncf231e posted:

overlandflyer posted

  ...if the shell is easy to pop off, maybe the motor, too?

Note that this is a clockwork locomotive (so it is a clockwork motor) and I assume it is put together with bended tabs, so not easy to disassemble.

i tend to refer to anything that turns wheels as a motor & i didn't see any external screws, hence my qualifier.  my guess is that it might be riveted together, but you never know so it doesn't hurt to ask.  i've never seen a streamline Fandor train before, but if this isn't the last one, the more clues available, the better chance of a good ID.

cheers...gary

By definition, it is a motor. Or even an engine, though engine is becomming more and more associated with fuel and motor with electricity (engine is also synonomous with a locomitive), either is correct enough alone to be right.

For me clockwork describes the means of stored energy. I guess I should look that definition up one day too

...I'm still jealous

Thanks for all the help, guys.  Here are some brief updates. The loco does say 05001 on the

front and JKC on the cab sides. The tender has a logo on the back that includes KRAUS, FANDOR,

 JKC, and an N which I assume stands for Nuremburg. One coach has no markings at all, one

has the logo like the tender, and three of them have the logo with GERMANY printed underneath

it.

The motor and its frame are currently in the WD40 bath, I will try and get some pics in the next few

days.

Fred, is there any chance you could scan or take a photo of the pics in the book you have and post them?

Thanks, John

Adriatic posted:

I think that was freindly sarcasm driven by jealousy.....? Hard to tell with RoyBoy, he may post a whole manual if he can.

I know I'm having trouble with you owning it while my shelf stays bare

Nice find.

No sarcasm at all. Just happy for someone else and their good fortune. Most of my obscure stuff is

All Nation, Hafner, AMT passenger and freight, Unique Arts, Thomas Industries, U&R passenger cars, Marx streamliners, and almost every streamlined steam engine that MTH or Lionel made.

This train was only 1937 avaible, here a picture from Kraus catalog.

Greetings from Germany

Arne

   I hope you didn't take that wrong. I figured you either were joking, or would pull a rabbit out of a hat for us. It can be read both ways is all

  i  thought  i  covered my rear within my own sarcasm  

  I am very happy to just see it also 

...but come on; You don't want that too? 

(bold is an accident...butt I wuz neer dunn)

beardog posted:

 

Fred, is there any chance you could scan or take a photo of the pics in the book you have and post them?

Thanks, John

John,

Here is the picture from the book:

I think this picture (like more pictures in this book) are copies from catalogue art, like Arne showed from the Kraus catalog..

Regards

Fred

thanks Arne and Fred for the pics, I am going to take somemore and post them soon

That's a neat little train! nice find!

It kinda amazes me that I cannot find anything similiar on the net. Time to call

Fritz and Walt I think.

In this (German) report of a tinplate train meet on a German forum you can see pictures of the same train and also the smaller version: http://alte-modellbahnen.xobor...ieg-4.html#msg376186

Regards

Fred

BEARDOG,

  I know you said the motor was in a WD40 bath, but did it run at all? 

  Nice find.

Tom 

Fred, thanks so much  the link.

Tom, it does not run, it is missing a few strategic parts, the shaft to wind it, at least one gear and the brake lever.

Happy thanksgiving

John