Putting together a block of new Allis Chalmers construction equipment. Using research materials on FRA loading requirements care of ChipR and his association with the NMRA; also the RPCYC.
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I just love Lionel TOFC cars
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About 40 years too modern. And too toyish for my taste. I prefer high end detail.
Is this allowed in the forum? Vacuum cleaners Or Avon next ;-P
Eric,
If you need a 1:50 road grader.................... $20 plus shipping.
John in Lansing, Ill
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Is this allowed in the forum? Vacuum cleaners Or Avon next ;-P
Originally Posted by rattler21:
Eric,
If you need a 1:50 road grader.................... $20 plus shipping.
John in Lansing, Ill
rattler21@sbcglobal.net
Great looking loads Eric. Who made the AC dozer? I'm looking for a 50's era one to move coal around a power plant I'm building.
Ed Rappe
Eric, Great work and the loads are fantastic! Malcolm
The loads look great. The only down side is that die cast construction vehicles really push the weight way up on the flat cars. 
I usually ignore this stuff. Glad I looked - I love those tractors. Did you say where they came from? I am an absolute road grader freak! I could go for these things. And the flat cars themselves look pretty darn good too - hopefully not plastic?
Very nice loads.
Very nicely done.
Eric - As usual, very nicely done.
Art
Excellent!
Terrific work Erik.
what did you use for the cable tie downs? I usually use a thin braided metal line that looks like it's galvanized. Yours is much darker.
Fellas- I'm glad you enjoyed the cars. Bob2 those are First Gear from Peosta Iowa for the annual Toy Tractor Convention show specials. 1/50- big units! They are die cast models with some light plastic detailing. Generally sell for $75-$100 a model.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?na...=web&id=130717987700
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?na...=web&id=130717987700
The cabling is a great product called EZ Line from Berkshire Junction.
http://www.berkshirejunction.com/ezline.html
http://www.berkshirejunction.com/ezline.html
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Flat cars are Red Caboose 43' flat cars. Variety of Rich Yoder brass trucks. Painted and distressed wood decking
Very inspirational Eric thanks for posting.....
IMO, Scrapper blade would have been down, on the deck of the flat car, as well as the front gate. Ejector pan in the fill mode, not forward. Rarely would they be allowed to set overnight as pictured, in the up position, definitely not shipped that way. Scrapper blade was always kept near the ground, best stability of a somewhat tip-sy machine. The scrapper blade was a better brake than what most of the machines had.
There is a wild story about the Montour Railroad, and a run-a-way flat with an earth mover on it, that eventually stopped, when it hit the front of the #76 SW9 unit.
Wonderful modeling Thanks for posting. In the mid-70's I worked with a couple of very old Terrex pans like the AC pan pictured. Not a human friendly piece of equipment.
YOU ARE RIGHT THAT "IS" YOUR OPINION
As far as that gate casting it will not move without breaking it. I also believe it would be left in the back position. Scraper that is another story.
As far as that gate casting it will not move without breaking it. I also believe it would be left in the back position. Scraper that is another story.
Originally Posted by Mike CT:
IMO, Scrapper blade would have been down, on the deck of the flat car, as well as the front gate. Ejector pan in the fill mode, not forward. Rarely would they be allowed to set overnight as pictured, in the up position, definitely not shipped that way. Scrapper blade was always kept near the ground, best stability of a somewhat tip-sy machine. The scrapper blade was a better brake than what most of the machines had.
There is a wild story about the Montour Railroad, and a run-a-way flat with an earth mover on it, that eventually stopped, when it hit the front of the #76 SW9 unit.
Wonderful modeling Thanks for posting. In the mid-70's I worked with a couple of very old Terrex pans like the AC pan pictured. Not a human friendly piece of equipment.
There is a wild story about the Montour Railroad, and a run-a-way flat with an earth mover on it, that eventually stopped, when it hit the front of the #76 SW9 unit. Wonderful modeling Thanks for posting. In the mid-70's I worked with a couple of very old Terrex pans like the AC pan pictured. Not a human friendly piece of equipment.
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Great research Erik Thanks you.
ON THE OTHER HAND- YOUR OPINION HAS MERIT!
I chose to not follow this practice due to the reference material dating from a later era in the 1960's. FRA later standard agreed with your logic. ;-)
I chose to not follow this practice due to the reference material dating from a later era in the 1960's. FRA later standard agreed with your logic. ;-)
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#76 was rebuilt and used again. Though engineers preferred to use it in a consist, said it never tracked right after the crash.
A convincing argument for sure to implement changes into loading practices. However comma- I model a much earlier era than your reference posted that would appear 1970's maybe even early 1980's judging by the color nature of the print and the prototype of the flat car. My era is 1947-1956- and indeed they implemented tens of thousands of changes in FRA standards between 1950-1980.
Cool picture thanks for sharing. I enjoyed the corespondence this morning.
Cool picture thanks for sharing. I enjoyed the corespondence this morning.
Originally Posted by Mike CT:
#76 was rebuilt and used again. Though engineers preferred to use it in a consist, said it never tracked right after the crash.
I love it Erik. No doubt, coming out of WWII, we were learning a lot. Everything was getting larger, leaps and bound larger. It would have taken time for all to comprehend the intensity of larger, bigger, more powerful, etc. Same applied to the Agriculture industry and their equipment. You're modeling in very accurate, thank you.
Recent trips on the PA turnpike, I-76, All this type of equipment is gone. The huge excavator seems to be the machine of choice. Some large quarry trucks. Most large earth movement areas, the excavators cut a solid road bed for the quarry trucks. Safety a big concern. Here in Western PA the massive project with the PA turnpike I-76 seem to be straighten all the curves. We have also removed (3) of the seven tunnels. Things change in 70 years. IMO Mike CT
As I review the pictures, one of the big changes was that a lot of earth moving equipment like this, early, operated by winch and cable lift systems, eventually replaced with hydraulic lifts. Even early D7 and D8 Cat Dozers used cable lift for the blades. The high tree, to the front of a couple of the tractor-less pan pictures, most likely was for cable lift. It would have made sense to ship the pan in the up position, it could have been attached to any tractor to be removed from the flat. Installing the multiple cable system with the winch, usually on the tractor, would have required a lot of effort, most likely done at the excavation site. Hydraulics changed a lot of the industry.
Best wishes, Erik
Mike CT
Some nice work!
I have a Red Caboose ATSF flat in need of a load... Great ideas here.
I am adding a dozer with a full blade I will see if I can take some photos for progresion of the project. Doug provided some great info!
Allis Chalmers block of new equipment. Getting a little closer
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Originally Posted by Erik C Lindgren:
Allis Chalmers block of new equipment. Getting a little closer
Close to the edge, round by the corner.....
I don't know if it's right. This is what I have done this far with the U.S. forest Service bulldozer.
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