Floquill Paints

I always used acrylic lacquer.

Maybe the thinner for Scalecoat would work?

I used Testors thinner for lacquer paints (orange can). Worked well. Use basic Home Depot lacquer thinner for clean-up.

I used generic paint thinner or laquer thinner depending on the forumula of the Floquil.... new vs old. I can't buy paint thinner in CA any more, and the laquer gums up some of it. Some say mineral spirits work for them but I have never tried it.

For most colors, I have been able to use mineral spirits, but regular lacquer thinner has worked for all of that I have used over the years.

Somewhere I have the formula for Diosol; something I make up a few gallons of someday....

I have some Dio Sol. Picked it up at a show a few years ago. I thought I read years ago that it contained xylenes but have no idea if that is true.

MWB how would someone determine what is in there? i am no chemist but know folks who could analyze this.

 

Pete

Seem to recall it was a mix of xylenes, some ethylbenzene, and some other goodies. Older stuff might have been something slightly different. 

 

BTW, I am a chemist,   If I had the inclination, I'd just get an LC-MS done on a sample. But being lazy, I think doing a search of my files on my computer tonight and just look it up might be more to my liking.

I recall you were a chemist. If you find your notes that would be good. If not, there is an LC-MS next door along with some friends who know how to use it.

 

Pete

"I used generic paint thinner or laquer thinner depending on the forumula of the Floquil.... new vs old. I can't buy paint thinner in CA any more, and the laquer gums up some of it. Some say mineral spirits work for them but I have never tried it.'

 

   That's the problem with trying to use Floquil now. They apparently changed the formula over the later years then stopped making the stuff so it's too hard to find the correct thinner for whatever era Floquil one has. Floquil was great in the old days but when they started messing with it I threw all mine out and learned to use acrylics. If I had to do any solvent based painting these days I'd probably use Scalecoat since it's still supported by the manufacturer, but I really see no reason to use solvent based these days since the modern acrylics work just as well with less smell and don't require solvent for clean up......DaveB 

I use Scalecoat II and Tru Color now as I refuse to airbrush acrylics. Every time I attempt it, things go flying across the floor. 

According to the MSDS dated 2/9/2005, Dio-Sol consists of:

VM&P Naptha 40-45%
Xylol (Xylene) 5-10%
Ethyl Benzene 1-5%
Aromatic Hydrocarbon Solvent 5-10%
Light Aromatic Hydrocarbon 40-45%

Flashpoint 65 degrees Fahrenheit

I now use only medium temp laquer thinner to thin all enamels. Works great and less smell as it cures.Seems like maybe it dries faster but who knows?

Rob

Thanks MWB. I think I have enough for my remaining old Floquil but good to know if I have whip up a batch. 

I think there were three Floquil formulas. They all state what kind of thinner to use. The second formula indicated either Dio Sol or their new thinner would work. The last formula would not work with Dio Sol but would use either their third generation thinner, mineral spirits (works but real slow to dry) or naphtha. 

 

Pete

I used to have a heck of time with Poly S.  Eventually figured it out but it was a steep learning curve.  A lot of nasty words came from a little boy during that time.  A few made sailors proud!  My mom wasn't impressed-got my airbrush taken away after a paint session when she heard the mother of all curse words dropped just as my father would say it!  I can still remember that talk from dad-'look, you can't say it where your mom can hear it.' That was it!  I couldn't believe it.  It was the first time dad was 'cool' in my book.

 

Anyhow, I could never spray Poly S white.  Tried everything-thinning, air pressure changes, and some other tricks.  Never could make it spray correctly.  Finally said the heck with it and used Testor's for white.