GG ElCapitan ( superliners?)

Why not send an eMail directly to Scott Mann? He will be able to answer all you questions about potential availability.

About a year. Reservations closed last May/ June. 

 

PDT will have some sets.  You could contact them or Scott and see what your options are. 

From what info has come out, a handful of Amtrak sets are being made. And they're not the same as superliners. Not even remotely close. 

Joe,

I initially reserved a few cars in Amtrak colors but since there were no 2-rail locomotives available or pending in Amtrak colors, after MTH released their Catalog at the York show last Spring, I replaced my reservation with a complete 8-car set in Santa Fe colors last April.

Also as Boilermaker1 mentioned, these are not similar to the contemporary Amtrak Superliner cars. The Santa Fe Hi-Level cars were the predecessors to the modern cars.

These are just my opinion,

Thanks,

Naveen Rajan

I love these Highlevel cars and these will I suspect be marvelous however sadly they are outside my era with a cut off of 1954. I am a collector also and in time will add them to my collection but I have other more important acquisitions to make before these.

Generally In time all these things end up on the secondary market and to a degree they diminish in value somewhat sometimes..

The 51' SC cars have not showed anywhere and the last set sold for over $5000 on eBay. Ugh and you guys that model 60's need the 51' SC to add to your Highlevel consist. Oh man these are going to be HOT HOT collectors items. Anyone care to import some FP45's??

Scott is creating the same thing Challenger Imports did 20 years ago in HO. A bonafide collectors dream passenger sets. Limited edition beautiful models that display marvelously.

Oh and how I love them.

Thanks Scott!

Thanks.

I didn't know the exact history but a lot of older cars got painted in Amtrak, right? I guessed that they were where the superliners started.

I have been begging Scott to do these... old Paint scheme and Super Fleet large lettering... he would sell a ton of them. The Rail King version just don't cut it for me.

I'd be up for an FP45 undecorated in 2 rail.

 

Rick

 

Thanks again. I have sent emails to Scott and PDT now. Waiting for replies.

That second picture really shows it all!

Photo copyright (c) Night Owl City courtesy of Flickr

This photos does represent the differences between the Pullman Standard "Superliner" build methodology versus Budd.

Not only height and width but also mechanicals are light years away from the late 1970's Superliner designs Amtrak made. PS went belly up shortly after the initial batch of Superliner I cars I think. Amtrak and I are strangers but I do read old issues of Trains Magazine.

The ATSF car was basically 1940's Budd stainless shot welding technology adapted to the High Level plans of ATSF in 1953. Budd built two prototypes with slanted inward windows. I think it was Fleischmann that made an HO plastic model of these cars in the 1960's and used the Budd prototype drawings. Interesting.

The Budd cars were mostly all used by Amtk in the 1970's. Many of the step down transition cars lasted until very recently. The lounge cars are still in service on the west coast trains. Name escapes me..??? Coast Starlight? 

Are the latest Superliner II cars the same guys? Or further changes?

who is/are PDT? Thanks, Scott.

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Ok - have a look at 1971-1979 Amtk use of the High Levels on the ATSF.


And the prototype High Level coach in service on Amtk in the 1970's


Prototype High Level #526/#527 courtesy (c) photo from Santa Fe Collection Kansas State Historical Society (Coach, Smoker & Chair Car Genealogy) John B. McCall used for reference only.

Public Delivery Track.  Also AM Hobbies may have a set available. 

 

Lots of people back out of their reservations when the pickup notices are sent so there is a pretty decent chance of getting a set; at least in ATSF.  I think only 8-10 sets are being made in Amtrak and Jonathan and I have 2 of them and they are not going to be available so...

 

2nd runs are not generally in the cards for anything anymore because of low demand.  The exception was the SP Daylight.  BUT, if 50 or so folks sign up for a 2nd run of the SC cars there might be sufficient demand.  Just need to let Scott know.  He's at the March Meet this weekend so...

Wow!

Look at those transition cars too!

 

Interestingly, I was talking with someone about asking scott to re-run some of the SC cars for use as the combined train, and maybe also running them as amtrak cars for the handful of us who ordered it (and probably some others who want to mix in with the CZ cars). 

A 5 car set with the dome, diner, 2 10-6s and an 11 double bedroom would complete the combined train nicely.

Extra SC cars is a great idea. I already have the 10 car set but I could use a few more.

Thanks to all that replied to my PDT question. As soon as I posted, it came to me! Thanks again, Scott.