GGD Powhatan Arrow

Shouldn't the add on cars be the 56 seat versions? There were only 2 P2 66 seat divided coaches in the 1946 order, there were 10 P3 56 seat coaches 531-540.

Steve

Here's the links:

http://www.goldengatedepot.com/images/powhatanad.pdf

http://www.goldengatedepot.com/reservation.htm

Do you mean 58 seat P3 coach? The new cars, of which included P1 crew coach (2), the P2 coach (2), P3 coach (10), diner (2) and the P4 round end observation (2) didn't arrive until 1949.

And they're offering a $500 discount if you buy a K2a (or Y6b) to go along with them. What a great deal! Any indication on delivery schedule? If it's out to 2015, I would be "in".

Gilly

Gilly,

It will be at least the very end of 2014 before this project would be completed. More likely, it will be early 2015.

If enough orders are placed. Better spread the word. I would hate for this to drag out very long.

Jim,

The next passenger train for the builder is the El Capitan. The Powhatan Arrow and B&O Sinsinatian would most likely be done at the same time to meet the 1000 car minimum. I am guessing there will be reservations for 100 +/- B&O 5 car sets. Probably has to be at least 80 reservations to make it worthwhile.

I would think the N&W guys would be able to meet the rest of the minimum. My time estimate is based on what I know of the builder's schedule and the length of time it takes to complete a project after it becomes reality (meaning sufficient reservations).

I believe I have the plans for all the N&W cars, but I am sure you either have them or can get them if I don't.

Thanks for the information.

Jim,

As I re-read my earlier post I think I may have caused some confusion. The El Cap is a separate project from the Powhatan Arrow and Sinsinatian. The N&W and B&O trains would be done at the same time which will be later then the El Capitan.

Do manufacturers such as GGD make it known to the various historical societies they are planning such things?  I would think there would be a number of society members that would purchase a set of these cars, no matter what scale.  Can't hurt to let them know!

Bob,

I am a member of the PRR T&HS and the B&O HS. I let both of those groups know of road specific projects coming from Sunset / 3rd Rail and Golden Gate.

I do know members of a number of other railroads' historical societies and confer with them on Sunset/GGD projects and ask them to pass new project information to their respective groups.

This week I will be at York and next week at the PRR T&HS convention near Harrisburg with the Sunset/GGD display.

I can't speak for what other importers' stance is on this topic.

Doesn't it make sense that the add on cars are P3 coaches since there were only 2 divided coaches (P2)?

I changed the extra coach to the P3....

Scott

Good deal.

Mainline Modeler magazine published plans for the N&W cars.

I have never found comparable drawings for the rebuilt heavweights that consisted the Cincinnatian.

A 5-car set of either consist is quoted at $1249.95. As much as I'd like to have both sets, $2500 plus CA tax at about the same time is just too rich for my blood.

Given the 400 (as I recall) Weaver P-7d's out there and the near-infinite number of N&W class J's I would think there is a good chance of sufficient number of sets being ordered. But-here's the tricky part-you all have to reserve them, ASAP. Please. I've done my bit for the B&O cars

Scott, if I have a reasonable assurance that these will be a 1st qtr 2015 item, I can place a preorder (with the extra car). I'm holding funds in place right now for the N&W Class M and that's going to be just about "it" for me this year.

Tom GIlsdorf

These will surely be great looking sets.  But my dilemma is not knowing the status/possibility of the N&W 'finish sets'.

I already have four GGD N&W coaches and two sleepers that I wanted to add to the finish set I ordered.  If the N&W finish set is not made, will that be determined before the order deadline for the Powhatan set? 

I'd like to get the N&W finish set, but if it gets cancelled I'd order the Powhatan set.  But if the timing is off I could end up with neither as I don't like to cancel anything I've ordered.

Just wondering out loud.

Brian,

If you will be at the York TCA meet please stop at the Sunset/GGD display so we can discuss this.

Bob, thanks, I'll be stopping by.

Bob,

Checking my reservations, there are only 3 for the N&W Finish Set. I would say, transfer your reservation to the Powhatan Arrow, and instead of a 4 car finish set, you can get a 5 car finish set to use your coaches and sleepers with.

Scott Mann