GO VOTE AT SMOKEY MOUNTAIN MODEL WORKS!!!

Me too.  And the watermelon cars also!

MTH Premier 70 foot gray passenger set – to match the new Premier gray Challenger

Biglou posted:

MTH Premier 70 foot gray passenger set – to match the new Premier gray Challenger

Yes, I'm sure that SMMW will be producing MTH products,

Watermelon cars?  Like the ones that Yoder just did?  Maybe getting some other ventilated produce cars would be more interesting - more variety? 

mwb posted:

Biglou posted:

MTH Premier 70 foot gray passenger set – to match the new Premier gray Challenger

Yes, I'm sure that SMMW will be producing MTH products,

Watermelon cars?  Like the ones that Yoder just did?  Maybe getting some other ventilated produce cars would be more interesting - more variety? 

 

Hey Martin!

I wouldn't mind the Central Georgia ventilated car, I need to branch out from Seaboard for some variety.  I also put my vote in for the ACL and SAL gondolas and N&W hopper.

Bob Delbridge posted:

mwb posted:

Biglou posted:

MTH Premier 70 foot gray passenger set – to match the new Premier gray Challenger

Yes, I'm sure that SMMW will be producing MTH products,

Watermelon cars?  Like the ones that Yoder just did?  Maybe getting some other ventilated produce cars would be more interesting - more variety? 

 

Hey Martin!

I wouldn't mind the Central Georgia ventilated car.......

There were many styles of ventilated cars, and it might be nicer to get something different instead of the same thing again and again, but history proves that the same thing again and again is indeed what folks want......

mwb posted:

Biglou posted:

MTH Premier 70 foot gray passenger set – to match the new Premier gray Challenger

Yes, I'm sure that SMMW will be producing MTH products,

Watermelon cars?  Like the ones that Yoder just did?  Maybe getting some other ventilated produce cars would be more interesting - more variety? 

 

I'm lumping the ventilated cars into the generic "watermelon car" bucket as I suspect others will.  Not sure that any of the ventilated cars were in assigned service for just one type of fruit/vegetable. 

Rule292 posted:

mwb posted:

Biglou posted:

MTH Premier 70 foot gray passenger set – to match the new Premier gray Challenger

Yes, I'm sure that SMMW will be producing MTH products,

Watermelon cars?  Like the ones that Yoder just did?  Maybe getting some other ventilated produce cars would be more interesting - more variety? 

 

I'm lumping the ventilated cars into the generic "watermelon car" bucket as I suspect others will.  Not sure that any of the ventilated cars were in assigned service for just one type of fruit/vegetable. 

How about one of the early B&O ventilated cars then?

I cast my vote for the Southern 50' waffle side boxcar.

Nuts, I would even take a Milwaukee SDL39 in 3 rail.

Dick

catnap posted:

I cast my vote for the Southern 50' waffle side boxcar.

I did as well.  These were all over the place.

I was interested that the Georgia group railways had similar cars.  I'll have to find a photo.

Jim's requesting anyone interested in him doing this car still to get in touch with him.  Here's the latest email I received today, applies to O and S scalers:

SAL B-7 boxcar reservations needed

Inbox

I sent this email to 3 .IO lists yesterday which some of you may not read often or no longer below to, so am sending directly to you.  Please excuse the duplication but this is the best way (for me) to reach as many O scalers as possible.

Last year, I conducted a survey among O scalers to determine cars of interest that may become resin kits, depending on response.  At that time, I did not receive sufficient interest to justify upscaling the SAL B7 “turtleback roof” box from S scale and making new patterns, etc. using traditional pattern generations options.  If you’re a narrow-gauge modeler, this car, a Pullman 1940 product, would make a great “interchange car”.

In mid-August of this year, I acquired a Form3 SLA resin 3D printing system.  This is a major “deal maker” when it comes to considering new projects that previously couldn’t be cost-justified.  Now, don’t this is the “be-all-end-all” answer to kit patterns; there are still limitations to the system (size being the biggest at just 5.75” square platform so longer patterns will be built in sections, joined, and used as 1^st gen mold patterns) and there will always be super-thin layering/stairstepping remnants to remove on curved/angled surfaces (like the roof) and some vertical surfaces.  However, this system eliminates the ULTRA-HIGH cost to purchase SLA patterns from my traditional sources or using less-than-SLA-quality processes to print patterns, as I was forced to do with the Southern gon due to less-than-anticipated kit sales.  The Southern gon patterns were built using the Polyjet system which, while layers are thinner than SLA, vertical walls had very rough and layered surfaces which could not be sanded out.  Printed parts also warped between printing/post-processing and receipt by me and, in the case of the body, the 1^st one could not be used and required design revision prior to re-printing.  This is why I’ve not produced any kits since the gon in late 2018 … being stuck between expensive SLA parts and poor quality Polyjet parts gave me no option except to wait on newer, affordable technology to become available.  The Form3 system solves that problem and it’ll only continue to improve.

If you’re interested in seeing the B7 become an O scale resin kit, knowing that there might be a little layer sanding here and there (I’ll remove most of them on the mold master), please reply to this email with your “vote”.  As with all resin kits, this will be a limited run … when orders are filled, there will be just a few kits worth of castings remaining (depending on molds’ remaining life), then it will be pulled from production.  This is THE TIME to confirm your previous reservation or place a new one.  No money required, just a FIRM COMMITMENT to what you would purchase when/if the kit becomes available around the middle of 2021.

Of course, feel free to suggest other kits, too.  The criteria to seeing any O scale kit is:  1) must be of interest to S scalers so R&D, CAD and decal artwork can be shared, 2) prototype info must be easily accessible, such as from RPCs, etc. and 3) a sufficient quantity of reservations received to justify the project regardless of criterium 1) above.  These can be detail parts, track accessories, small parts, etc.  Projects DON’T have to be car kits.

To view the S scale pilot model, go here.

Jim King

CANCEL THAT!!!

Just received another email from him:

I just confirmed that Protocraft is expecting delivery of brass SAL AF-1 and B-7 models in late Spring 2021.  No need for me to continue with plans to produce a resin kit of the B-7 so please consider my project cancelled.  I urge you to support Norm.

Jim King

So...Not sure if this is suppose to be a secret or what with Protocraft, first I heard of it.

What is the time frame of the early B&O ventilated cars ?

@mwb posted:

Yes, I'm sure that SMMW will be producing MTH products,

Gadzooks! Perhaps we have stumbled across the SECRET MTH buyout!

Simon

@bob3 posted:

What is the time frame of the early B&O ventilated cars ?

Don't know anything about these cars.

As bad as I want the Turtleback SAL cars I doubt I'll spend the cash required for a brass model.  Now if Protocraft offers a resin model I'll take a look.

@Bob Delbridge posted:

Don't know anything about these cars.

As bad as I want the Turtleback SAL cars I doubt I'll spend the cash required for a brass model.  Now if Protocraft offers a resin model I'll take a look.

Jim King doesn't do brass.  His kits are resin.

Rusty

Thanks Bob D - my B&O question was aimed at the person who suggested it above (I don't know anything about them or if prototype data is "readily" available - but if the prototype was still running in the 1930's; I'd be on-board for a couple well done resin kits).

As for pricing - keep in mind a resin kit released next year may be pushing $175 - when you add $50 for brass trucks to that and something for your time to assemble the kit - a $400 brass car doesn't look so bad.

@bob3 posted:

As for pricing - keep in mind a resin kit released next year may be pushing $175 - when you add $50 for brass trucks to that and something for your time to assemble the kit - a $400 brass car doesn't look so bad.

Maybe, if that $400 brass car actually gets made and is available. Right now, new brass freight cars seem to exist only in dreams, smoke & mirrors, and wishful thinking.  3D printed prototype to feed resin production now seems a far more viable avenue forward to cars that will not be otherwise available.

I agree Martin, wish Jim King would rethink this being he has a new 3D printer, probably half the cost of brass.

@Bob Delbridge posted:

I agree Martin, wish Jim King would rethink this being he has a new 3D printer, probably half the cost of brass.

Ventilated cars, and other 1930 and earlier cars, specialty cars (e.g., poultry cars), and I'm interested.

@mwb posted:

Ventilated cars, and other 1930 and earlier cars, specialty cars (e.g., poultry cars), and I'm interested.

We need to get Zach Pabis graduated and back on the job of 3D printing!!!

@Bob Delbridge posted:

We need to get Zach Pabis graduated and back on the job of 3D printing!!!

I'll talk with him tomorrow,

Ventilated cars also.

Al O

I'd be interested in ventilated cars and poultry cars!

@mwb posted:

I'll talk with him tomorrow,

I got an email from him just the other day, but didn't mention anything about 3D printing.  We mainly went over what color(s) the ACL R-1 4-8-4 should be   I did provide him with a nice photo I found the other day...What the heck color would pickled blue stove pipe be?!?!?!:

There must be a million Jim Kings in the US.  I had a modeling buddy as a neighbor in Eau Gallie in 1950 with that name.

I don't do resin, but it sure makes some stunning models.  I should have grabbed a Harriman RPO when SCF was doing them.

@bob2 posted:

There must be a million Jim Kings in the US.  I had a modeling buddy as a neighbor in Eau Gallie in 1950 with that name.

I don't do resin, but it sure makes some stunning models.  I should have grabbed a Harriman RPO when SCF was doing them.

LOL!  My last job with Uncle Sam we had 4 Kevins and 4 Jims out of about 20 people.  I was the only Bob in the group.

I have a couple of resin cars and the detail is crisp and fairly strong.

I got in a box of brass parts yesterday that came to over $200, I was beginning to think brass was more expensive than gold as light as the package was.

I helped my grandfather with the install of stove piping many years ago - seems like it was a blackish color when hit with sunlight had a bluish cast - kinda like gun blue

@bob3 posted:

I helped my grandfather with the install of stove piping many years ago - seems like it was a blackish color when hit with sunlight had a bluish cast - kinda like gun blue

I've got 2 bottles of gun bluing, but I don't think it'll work on diecast ...maybe I can find some paint that matches!