Green Lionel Madison Cars 2625, 2626 & 2627

These were very possibily produced for Madison Hardware as they once employed an EXPERT restorer named Len Carparelli. This gentleman did some amazing painting, silk screening, decaling and maybe even heat stamping back in the day.

Are they stamped Lionel on the frames? I had a Madison car(brown) that was unstamped and I was told that it was a early Williams and it was very well done. 

franktrain

The green Madison cars are mentioned in the new book on Madison Hardware. I don't remember the details.

Here is a two page OGR thread from last year on them:  green Madison cars

They have been re-painted.

my father always told of a story bout in the early 50's the local hardware store,,,in russellton pa,,,kinda north of Pittsburgh pa had a set of green Pullmans,like those with a santa fe f3,,,,he had to return it cause the coal mines when on strike,,,,one of those what if stories,,,what a fine that might be today

Hi All,

I was looking at one of the cars today and a door spring popped loose so I has to fix it.  When I took the end of the car off you can see inside without any issues.  These are not repainted from looking inside or what I would call a armature repaint.  I have attached a photo of the inside of the car.  Also a pic of the car end as removed.  You can see that it is green all around.

Franktrain had a good point to look for a Lionel stamp on the frame, I have not been able to find anything at this point.

Thank you,
Bruce

I believe what you may have is an early Williams repro. Is there any stamping of "Williams" on the frame or the inside roof of the passenger car? Is the body made of a thick grey plastic? The giveaway is the middle flangeless wheels on the three axle truck appears to be plastic. If it's plastic, it could be early Williams. But I see the couplers in your latest photos are the electronic type so those middle wheels could be metal and you may have a genuine Lionel model or one cobbled up from parts in Madison hardware in NYC!