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Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:
From the TERMS of SERVICE for this forum, which you all read and agreed to:

 

In a similar light, posts whose purpose we judge to be primarily to bash another person, vendor, manufacturer, etc., will be deleted.

Rich,

My post earlier was not intended as a personal attack on the poster. It was intended to be a, "wake-up call" of sorts. I respect your right to judge it as you see fit.

 

God Bless,

"Pappy"

Originally Posted by upmontman:

I was wondering what everybody thought of Grzyboski's

 

Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:
Originally Posted by C W Burfle:
OGR has had a long standing policy of forbidding complaints about dealers / sellers being aired here anyway.

Yes we have C.W., and I thank you for pointing that out.

 

From the TERMS of SERVICE for this forum, which you all read and agreed to:

 

When you post about a bad experience keep in mind that there are usually three sides to every quarrel: your side, the other side, and the truth, which is somewhere in the middle.

 

When you post about such a difference of opinion, the other side usually doesn't have the opportunity to defend himself on the Forum so such things can become very one-sided and unfair very quickly. In the interest of fairness, if you actually name the other party in such a post, creating the potential, given the vast reach of the Internet, for what might be a very unfair character assassination, we are going to delete the thread.

 

In a similar light, posts whose purpose we judge to be primarily to bash another person, vendor, manufacturer, etc., will be deleted.

 

 

This policy has been in place for many years, long before we had sponsors on this forum. The policy has nothing to do with whether the merchant in question is an forum sponsor or not. Posts that flame a merchant for some perceived problem ALWAYS degenerate into very personal arguments and do no one any good.

 

The fact is that if Grzyboski's (or any other successful store for that matter) truly treated their customer badly, they would not be in business! Customers would vote with their feet and go elsewhere. Grzyboski's has been around a LONG time and is one of the most successful hobby dealers in the country. They are obviously doing something right.

Face it Rich, no business does things right 100% of the time.  The original poster asked for everyone's thoughts about a business.  What value are you adding by only allowing those with positive experiences post?   Seems you should allow both positive and negative responses or none at all.

 

Would it be appropriate for me to respond "I had a bad experience with this business and if you email me at the email in my profile I'll tell you all about it"? 

 

--Greg

Originally Posted by Greg Houser:
Originally Posted by Balshis:

Can someone tell me the correct pronunciation of "Grzyboski?"

 

Probably easier to call the store and listen to how they answer the phone.

 

Actually, I have called them, and listened for exactly that.  But they pronounce it so fast that I couldn't really catch it.

 

I remember when I bought my first Fastrack. Oldest Joe got down on the floor with me and helped piece it together. I walked out of there with two complete ovals and three or four remote switches. Their prices beat everyone else.

 

They got burned with a big check and subsequently required a copy of my DL with my personal check. It seems fewer and fewer people are using those anyway.

 

I have also ordered on line from them without difficulty. One of my "go to" shops...

Originally Posted by POTRZBE:

The correct pronunciation is tricky if you are unfamiliar with eastern Europe languages. Hint:  It is not Griz boss ski.

 

Suffice to say the owner and his son have gone the extra mile for me on more than one occasion.

Maybe I'm just an optimist, but when mentioning these nice folks and their business in conversation, I hope the Z is silent.

 

That at least works for people to know who I mean.

 

-Dave

 

 

 

 

Face it Rich, no business does things right 100% of the time.  The original poster asked for everyone's thoughts about a business.  What value are you adding by only allowing those with positive experiences post?   Seems you should allow both positive and negative responses or none at all.

 


--Greg

 

With no offense to Rich or OGR whatsoever, this is why reviews of vendors/stores on OGR are not really worth anything.

 

There's a vendor on the advertiser's list up top that I had a legitimate, proven problem with. However, I respect Rich's rules and don't post it.

Now and then I see people ask about the vendor I had the bad dealing with ask a question about the very issue I had.  I just stay quiet, since we know what will happen if I reply with my factual story.

 

Take it for what it is.

Originally Posted by Dave45681:
Originally Posted by POTRZBE:

The correct pronunciation is tricky if you are unfamiliar with eastern Europe languages. Hint:  It is not Griz boss ski.

 

Suffice to say the owner and his son have gone the extra mile for me on more than one occasion.

Maybe I'm just an optimist, but when mentioning these nice folks and their business in conversation, I hope the Z is silent.

 

That at least works for people to know who I mean.

 

-Dave

 

 

I'll have to as my wife after work. She's from Poland and her pronunciation of Slavic names was an eye opener when we first met.

My last name is Makowiecki, it's been pronounced Mak oh wicky for 3 generations but it is actually Mock of yet ski, hers... Kowalczyk here it Co wall chick, over there Ca vall chick, a friend named Borowski is Baa rowel (silent L) ski in Poland it's Bu ruv ski.

Not sure if Grzyboski is Polish but I'll ask.

 

I also have ordered from Grzyboski in the past and had no issues and several times they were the only one who had in stock what I was looking for.

 

Jerry

 

Jerry

Originally Posted by baltimoretrainworks:
Originally Posted by Dave45681:
Originally Posted by POTRZBE:

The correct pronunciation is tricky if you are unfamiliar with eastern Europe languages. Hint:  It is not Griz boss ski.

 

Suffice to say the owner and his son have gone the extra mile for me on more than one occasion.

Maybe I'm just an optimist, but when mentioning these nice folks and their business in conversation, I hope the Z is silent.

 

That at least works for people to know who I mean.

 

-Dave

 

 

I'll have to as my wife after work. She's from Poland and her pronunciation of Slavic names was an eye opener when we first met.

My last name is Makowiecki, it's been pronounced Mak oh wicky for 3 generations but it is actually Mock of yet ski, hers... Kowalczyk here it Co wall chick, over there Ca vall chick, a friend named Borowski is Baa rowel (silent L) ski in Poland it's Bu ruv ski.

Not sure if Grzyboski is Polish but I'll ask.

 

I also have ordered from Grzyboski in the past and had no issues and several times they were the only one who had in stock what I was looking for.

 

Jerry

 

Jerry

I am not sure of his family origin but given that the borders of eastern Europe were redrawn many times in the last 2 centuries, the name could have Slavick or Russian or Polish origins.  The main thing is that they are good folks to do business with.

 

Ko vall chick would be correct because a 'w' has a 'v' sound in that part of the world.

Originally Posted by Greg Houser:
Face it Rich, no business does things right 100% of the time.

Agreed. However, if a business handles 99% of its customers just fine and has a problem with 1% of their customers, is it fair to rake that vendor over the coals for a 1% "failure" rate? I don't think so. ANY company that can achieve a 1% failure rate is doing VERY well.

 


 

 

Originally Posted by EscapeRocks:

There's a vendor on the advertiser's list up top that I had a legitimate, proven problem with. However, I respect Rich's rules and don't post it...

I thank you for not posting about this. But here again, your story is that you have a "...legitimate, proven problem with" a vendor. However, without hearing the vendor's side of the story, it is simply not fair to discuss that problem in a public forum. And I suspect the "99% rule" is likely in place for that vendor, too!

 

 

NOBODY will remain in business very long if they treat their customers badly. Customers will vote with their feet and simply go somewhere else. The Grzyboski's have been around a LONG time and they are a very successful dealer. They are obviously doing something right.  

 

 

I'm going to close this thread now. I think we've pretty well covered this subject.

Last edited by Rich Melvin
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