Happy Holidays from 3rd Rail - EMC Es Announced

Happy Holidays and New Year Scott.

Those E1’s are GORGEOUS!!!!

Scott what happened to the Pennsylvania e2’s

Wow, that is fantastic news.  Thanks Scott.

Very beautiful engines.

bluelinec4 posted:

Scott what happened to the Pennsylvania e2’s

Always thought that the very first EMD passenger units on the PRR were the two E7A units, one of which is in the Pennsylvania State RR Museum, across the street from the Strasburg Rail Road. 

So,,,,,,,,,what is a Pennsylvania "e2"? Certainly nothing related to EMC, i.e. Electro-Motive Corporation, which is the subject of this thread.

PRR E2b is an electric loco, and we only got 21 orders so it's on the back burner for now.

BTW: B&O EA will come in EARLY and LATE Schemes. The later Scheme pulled the Capitol Ltd.

Scott

Hey Scott, how are the Milwaukee Quill reservations coming along.

Thanks again for doing these.

My posts here have been few and far between of late, but I couldn't let this announcement pass unremarked. This is further proof that if you live long enough you may get to see just about everything you're looking for. I've been crying on Scott's shoulder for a decade or more to have him produce these truly iconic engines and he's finally delivered, with a Holiday announcement no less!

Thanks very much, Scott!  I'm sure they'll turn out to have been worth the wait.

- Mike

Scott,

Excellent news. I ordered a Santa Fe set last night.

Also maybe consider the A units as a separate sell. The SF had 3 A-B sets 2L&2A-4L&4A and 5 single A units #5-9. I would like to maybe add an A unit.

Hot Water posted:

bluelinec4 posted:

Scott what happened to the Pennsylvania e2’s

Always thought that the very first EMD passenger units on the PRR were the two E7A units, one of which is in the Pennsylvania State RR Museum, across the street from the Strasburg Rail Road. 

So,,,,,,,,,what is a Pennsylvania "e2"? Certainly nothing related to EMC, i.e. Electro-Motive Corporation, which is the subject of this thread.

Scott respectfully answered my question.  Didnt know the forum police say I 'm not allowed to mention any non EMC engines that 3rd rail was trying to make.  This is an E2 which Scott had announced earlier in the year

By Pennsylvania Railroad - Scanned from "Pennsy Power" by Alvin F. Staufer and Bert Pennypacker. Page 300. Published 1962. This book was not copyright renewed and thus fell into the public domain., Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/...x.php?curid=65625093

Scott is on top of things.  Emailed him regarding a typo in the website linked in his original post; and, he corrected it within 2.5 hours of its receipt by him.  He pays attention to everything.

My posts here have been few and far between of late, but I couldn't let this announcement pass unremarked. This is further proof that if you live long enough you may get to see just about everything you're looking for. I've been crying on Scott's shoulder for a decade or more to have him produce these truly iconic engines and he's finally delivered, with a Holiday announcement no less!

Thanks very much, Scott!  I'm sure they'll turn out to have been worth the wait.

- Mike

15 years later nothing has changed, Casatelli is still stealing my lines.

That made me curious, so I checked.  WOW, two days shy of seven years, possibly a record length of time between posts.

Now I need to add the '38 Super Chief to go with these.  There is no other choice.

Pete - glad to see you back. 

Mike - I told you they would happen someday and someday has arrived.  Hooray!!

Now to give Scott some grief for the holidays - it sounds like a Royal Blue offering is necessary for the EA and a rerun of the P7D that also carried it.

Yeah, well, it's been a boring time in the hobby. Witness the witless Kruimer kommentary aboveGeez, he wouldn't recognize an icon if he was looking straight at me.  All is not lost, however. Scott and Co. are bringing back some of the excitement .

- Mike

Mike Casatelli posted:

Kruimer kommentary

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!  About time this forum got back to form as it were.

That's right Jonathan, you kept the faith and that gave me hope. I trust your artistic talents will be applied to this project, too.

As for getting the Forum back to form, I'm not so sure. It's best to let sleeping dogs lie. After all, if you wake them Pete is likely to go Arf! again . 

- Mike

I just miss the days when we actually talked about trains here ..... no further comment on that subject!

Very excited by the E1s.  Wish I had a reason to order EAs too but my 2 rail layout will terminate prior to Liberty Terminal.

You and I talked. Pete mostly listened. 

I don't get your problem with the EAs. You have to understand that the B&O was actually an intrastate railroad located entirely within Baltimore, Ohio, a little bit east of Columbus, which actually was the originally planned eastern terminus of the Santa Fe, so there would be no need to reach Jersey. That's Kruimer Kountry anyway. This is the straight skinny, so order those EAs.

Trust me; after all, I'm an NYC guy.

Now it's time to return this thread to Scott.

Cheers,

- Mike

So, as a (relatively) young person in the hobby, and as someone whose knowledge of the prototypes is somewhat lacking, let me ask: during what period would these have been the correct engine to pull the Capitol Limited? Through the train's run? I'm just getting more into the scale side of the hobby, so this side of things is new to me.

Thanks

Andrew B. posted:

So, as a (relatively) young person in the hobby, and as someone whose knowledge of the prototypes is somewhat lacking, let me ask: during what period would these have been the correct engine to pull the Capitol Limited? Through the train's run? I'm just getting more into the scale side of the hobby, so this side of things is new to me.

Thanks

I am not an expert, but in a Harry Stegmaier book on postwar B&O trains, pics show an E6 leading in 1953, and an E7A in 1959.

David

Mike,

It is nice to see you post here again after these few years.  I have always enjoyed your thoughtful comments.  I hope that you continue.

Back to the topic,it looks like Scott will have another winner here.

Merry Christmas.

Norm

Just pre-ordered the B&O EA/EB set with all the cars.  Really looking forward to this set.

Thanks Scott!!  Merry Christmas.

Typical Kasatelli, Kick a Kruimer when he is not.....online.  

WOW, two days shy of seven years, possibly a record length of time between posts.

Well, Greg, I had to hold a record at something.  It is about the same amount of time one needs to recover from a trip to Long Island.

Mike,

It is nice to see you post here again after these few years.  I have always enjoyed your thoughtful comments. 

Of course I can't let that one go.  Norm, like that one visit to LI, I'm sure we'd settle for one thoughtful comment from Mike. In another 7 years.

Diseasels (OK, maybe not slang for an E1) from Scott keep on getting better and better with each release.  This one is bound to be the best of the best, an actual icon no matter how loosely that word is thrown around here.  I have my order in.  And thanks again to Scott for making these!

Jonathan - You sure you're glad to see me back?

Sweet Scott merry Christmas and wow man that Rocket.. mind blown my dood 

Typical. Just because I autographed Pete's copy of my universally acclaimed Professional Ferroequinologist's Dictionary he feels empowered to ascribe to himself the coining of all my best words. Next he'll be claiming that this new EA E1 project was his idea. Whatta' guy.

Of course Jonathan's not happy to see Pete back. He's just polite. Like me.

Ah, well, at the risk of being unnecessarily selfless, I'll now return this thread to its prime mission of increasing business for Scott and 3rd Rail. Betcha' Jersey Boy can't do the same . . .

(Norm, you spoke too soon .)

- Mike

I'll now return this thread to its prime mission of increasing business for Scott and 3rd Rail. Betcha' Jersey Boy can't do the same . . .

Ha!  I can.

Well, only because I respect my elders.         The aged.             And infirmed.

Ha!  Just like the olden days,or the days of yore!

Norm

And Norm, not even too late for another compliment - Erik, that Rocket that Scott did is simply stunning.  Nothing like proud ownership.

I like the suggestion of  E1 A units only

btw - can anyone divulge what the minimum order quantity is (i.e. how many orders to we need to drum up to get the E1's made ?) ?

bob3 posted:

I like the suggestion of  E1 A units only

btw - can anyone divulge what the minimum order quantity is (i.e. how many orders to we need to drum up to get the E1's made ?) ?

I would order an E1 A unit.

bob3 posted:

I like the suggestion of  E1 A units only

btw - can anyone divulge what the minimum order quantity is (i.e. how many orders to we need to drum up to get the E1's made ?) ?

My memory is not real good these days but I do seem to recall seeing some numbers posted regarding required reservations to have various engines built.  Might have been posted by Rheil or Jonathan, again not certain.  

What I believe might be helpful is if the order reservations pages had a thermometer like indicator that showed approximately what percentage (25-50-75) of required reservations have been obtained.  This might help people who are undecided go ahead and make a reservation if the indicator shows that there are only a small percentage of additional reservations required to move a particular engine into production.  Perhaps when only say a dozen additional reservations are needed, the actual number required could be displayed.  I realize this probably won’t happen, but if it did, then people would not have to continually ask “what happened to xxxx project.

Normally runs of diesels are in the 500 or so range. However, since the only 2 railroads that can accurately be done for these locomotives are the Baltimore & Ohio and Santa Fe  the run will be lower, and the price will be somewhat higher.

Expect about 300 +/- total units.

Scott, question, does the maroon look a little off to you on the Westinghouse motor? I know this photo is an HO loco but hope yours will be better. Don

Scott, as the comments above, thank you, sir, again!   I have several 3rd Rail steam engines, this is my first diesel.  And what a landmark bit of motive power it is!  Again, thank you, sir, and I am already awaiting delivery notification of my ordered St Fe E1 A-B set.   Looks like 2020 is set to be a great year for another reason.

Jesse   TCA  12-68275

Don, I too questioned the color on this example. But, knowing Scott as we do I know he'll get it right.  

OK but What about the EMC Demo unit #822 that went to the KCS?

GregM posted:

bob3 posted:

I like the suggestion of  E1 A units only

btw - can anyone divulge what the minimum order quantity is (i.e. how many orders to we need to drum up to get the E1's made ?) ?

My memory is not real good these days but I do seem to recall seeing some numbers posted regarding required reservations to have various engines built.  Might have been posted by Rheil or Jonathan, again not certain.  

What I believe might be helpful is if the order reservations pages had a thermometer like indicator that showed approximately what percentage (25-50-75) of required reservations have been obtained.  This might help people who are undecided go ahead and make a reservation if the indicator shows that there are only a small percentage of additional reservations required to move a particular engine into production.  Perhaps when only say a dozen additional reservations are needed, the actual number required could be displayed.  I realize this probably won’t happen, but if it did, then people would not have to continually ask “what happened to xxxx project.

This 'thermometer' idea I really like.  Model railroading is a relatively small community, and O-scale is a niche within that.  Being that reservation-based purchases are becoming increasingly prevalent, knowing the status of one would be very helpful for deciding how to budget for purchases in the future.  In other words, it could add some certainty back to the purchasing process.

Anyone that does not order an E1 needs to have their temperature taken.