Help: Trying to ID What I Have

Picture is not very sharp and a lot of Flyer, Hafner etc looked very similar, but here we go.

The loco looks to be a Hafrner 112, 1930-31 only. If it is aluminum, that will confirm the ID. The tender appears to have a NYC logo, so my guess is a Hafner 1190, type 1c. The way the frames are shaped appear to be from the 6 1/4- 6 3/8" family of Hafner coaches.

Better pictures of each piece would help confirm.

Steve

I will try to take some better pics.  Thank you.

When I first saw this picture I thought it was my train. I had to go get it out to be sure that it wasn't. When I compared the pictures I noticed that the colors of the last two cars were reversed. This is a Hafner. I checked the loco shell with a magnet and it is cast iron.

David, nice looking set also. The visual giveaway on the aluminum 112 is the VERY short smoke stack.  It looks more like a dome.

Steve

Thank you to David Nissen and to Papa Eastman for your input.  I really appreciate it.

the 112 should also have a very unique motor...

only the 112 had this riveted brake lever extension due to the longer cab.

the roadname cars have a lot more interest than the plain Overland Flyer liveries.  the tender may have a number on the back or it may not.  there are many subtle differences in Hafner lettering/ numbering.  the unmatched colors are a fairly common find in a Hafner boxed set.

a very nice set in that almost all the pieces, especially the aluminum shell locomotive, are desirable.

cheers...gary

Thank you very much.  My co worker, who owns this, said it was his father's.  Apparently as a child the father was allowed to play with the trains at **** time and then they were put away until the following year.  I suppose each year a new item might have been added to make the toy more enjoyable -- a progressive toy, I suppose.  So it is in pretty good shape.

Your friend needs to restart that family tradition. A train set that colorful needs to be shared.

Steve

Steve:

I sent him a link to this thread, so he read you thoughts! 

We are not sure if the train will run - since it is a clock-work gear, not sure it would run and I was afraid it might break.  But it has not been abused through the years, just played with normally and is in very good condition overall.

Thanks again to you and the other forum members.  My friend was impressed with the knowledge exhibited by the membership here!

Steve is right; oil up the motor and enjoy it.  I would offer you a suggestion about elderly clockwork motors - wind it up carefully the first time, counting the number of turns that it takes until it is fully wound.  Then when you wind it up after that, just wind it up one or two turns short of fully wound.  This helps to protect the spring and hub from breaking, which usually happens when the spring is "overwound".  Keep in mind that the spring won't unwind all the way when you run the train, so it will need less winding after a run.  When you store it, pick it up and let the spring unwind completely.

Hafner built a good clockwork motor, chances are it will work just fine.  If something does go wrong, don't panic - it can be fixed.  That is a very nice train, I'm glad you posted pictures of it!