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I have an MTH 2-8-0, #20-3051-1, PS2 with 8.4 volt battery. It had a bad speaker that I replace about a weeks ago. Everything worked just fine, great sound and control. Ran it around the layout once or twice without the tender shell.

 

Installed the tender shell, put it on the track and fired it up. Everything came up and it started out just fine for about 4 feet, then all of a sudden, it ran like a rabbit, as though it was using full voltage from the track and ignoring the DCS controls. I stopped it using the emergency stop button on my DCS remote to kill power to the layout. 

 

I rebooted my TCU and remote, and now I get nothing. The engine is selected, but no response at all. I get Check Track or Engine not on track.

 

I did verify that there is power to the track. ALL my other MTH engines respond just fine.

 

Removed the tender shell again, can not see anything that is causing an issue. Hooked it up to the engine, without the shell, and still nothing. It does not respond to Start Up, Shut Down, speed control, or any other function from the remote. I still get the same notes on the LCD Display, Check track or Engine not on track. I hear a faint humming from the engine and the tender. When I kill power to the specific track the engine is on from my control panel, the humming disappears. When I switch on the power, there is no humming until I hit Start Up. 

 

So, what other things can I look at? What might be the cause? How can I get it fixed?

 

Thanks

RAY

 

If anyone that works on MTH PS2 products lives in the San Jose Bay Area, let me know and perhaps you can take a look at it.

 

 

 

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PS-2 5V systems can fail unexpectedly.  If all the connectors are plugged in, harness is fine, and no broken or pinched wires the board may have died.

 

Can you read amperage when applying power?  The hum is not good.  Try conventional to see if it works.

 

A MTH Tech can test the board separately.  If bad, the board is replaced with a PS-2 3V board with 5V connectors.  This requires the battery and speaker to be changed along with the battery harness.  At this point you have all new electronics and if you chose a Heavy Mikado sound file you can have the Quillable Whistle feature added if the Flash board is used in the repair.

 

If no MTH Repair tech in your area, I can do the testing and repair.  My e-mail is in my profile.  G

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Barry, GGG and SW Hiawatha et al:

 

This morning, I was able to restart the engine in DCS - did not try conventional. The engine came up and all functions worked. Did a shut down, then a start up, everything was fine.

 

Took it out for a run on the layout (12 by 8) ran fine, sounds worked until it reached on section of track. It lost sound for about 5 ft, engine ran ok just no sound. 

 

Then the sound came back - by the way, the tender shell if off the tender during all this testing.

 

Continued on the loop a second time and third time, sound was fine until it hit the same section of track, lost the sound again, but sound came back at the same spot it did on the first loop.

 

Parked the engine, and put on another engine, MTH VO1000 and ran it over the same loop, it NEVER lost sound. Did this twice.

 

Pulled the 2-8-2 out of the siding, ran it around the loop once, lost the sound. Second time around, NEVER lost the sound. A third, no loss of sound. Everything seemed to be OK. Bell, whistle, volume control, direction, etc all worked OK.

 

So at this point, shut the engine down, and decided to let you all know. 

 

What this means, well I sure as **** don't but maybe you or other have some ideas.

 

Will re-install the tender shell later this morning and see what happens and keep you posted.

 

Thanks,

RAY

Is the main board in the engine or tender? I had a 2-8-0 with board in engine that was intermittently  shorting out the metal shell. Lined the boiler with electrical tape and all was well... Try the battery test.. remove track power.. sounds should continue on for at least 6 or 7 seconds. Track power not shut down with remote.

Yes his is a 2-8-2.

Originally Posted by Barry Broskowitz:

G,

PS-2 5V systems can fail unexpectedly

This more often happens after an event, such as someone opening the tender and replacing a speaker. The result can be a pinched wire, short to ground, etc.

Barry,  I have had a 100 of these boards pass through my hands.  The blown caps, and diodes are on the power supply side, not the processor end where the outputs are.  I am sure it can happen but I have seen too many that had clean undamaged engines.  I think a batch of bad components or a process problem at some point effected some batches of these boards.  Unfortunately the 5V power supply was run near max output on this design.  G

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