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I have a few MTH buildings that I would like to remove incandescent lighting and replace with Leds. A few of them also have Miller signs that need 4.5 volts. I have used Led rolls for scratch built building lighting but they are typically 12 volt. I have not seen rolls of led that are 4.5 volt. 

I also have a few Menards buildings that are 4.5 volts.  So I would prefer to make everything4.5 volts.  But.... not sure of the easiest route.

The primary power supply is 18 volts.  I guess I could use one buck converter to drop to 12 volts for 2 or 3 buildings and add individual bucks to drop to 4.5 volts inside the buildings that need 4.5 volts. (factoring in amp draw)

Any suggestions

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As John H says there are 5V LED strips.  The relevance is that even Menards uses 5V LED strips in their buildings powered by 4.5V.  For example, Morton Salt:

menards morton salt

In other words you can power a 5V LED strip with 4.5V to good effect.  Yes, it will be a bit dimmer than if powered by 5V.

So.  If you want to leave your 12V LED strip powered buildings as-is, then you would just need 2 AC-to-DC converter modules...one with output set to 12V DC, the other set to 4.5V DC.  Both would be powered by your existing 18V AC.  With the $2 new-customer coupon, the converter that RJR identified is reasonably priced.  Or there's the same converter on eBay for $3 (free shipping from Asia) but almost gone (whatever that means):

ac in dc out converter 3 bucks on ebay free shipping from asia

Or available on Amazon with presumably faster US shipping for a bit more coin.

only 1 left in stock - order soon

In general, I'd support John's suggestion of an inexpensive 5V computer power supply with a diode to drop the 5V down to around 4.5V.  But since you say this is a Christmas layout where space/wiring issues are paramount, I figure the fewer 120V AC power cords the better.

Or. If you only have a few MTH buildings that you converted to 12V LED strips, perhaps you could re-do them to use 5V LED strips.  Then ALL your building would operate on 4.5V DC.  In round numbers, a single AC-to-DC converter module as shown and set to 4.5V DC output should power between 50-100 LEDs on a 5V LED strip.  So depending on how many converted buildings you have and how many 4.5V Menards/Miller buildings you have you might even get by with one AC-to-DC converter set to ~4.5V DC!  Your mileage may vary. 

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There are always a lot of helpful suggestions on the forum. So any feed back on this idea...?

Continuing to simplify the Christmas layout, I am thinking of setting these panel mount jacks into my plywood platform. I can then have short power leads on each building and plug them into the layout from the top.  All jacks neatly prewired under  the plywood layout with one or 2 leads out to transformer/ power source.

I will probably drill a hole size as close as possible so I can hot glue jacks in place somewhat permanently.

5.5mm x 2.1mm DC Power Jack Socket Female Panel Mount Connector Adapter

2020 Gold PE

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