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I have had a Lionel culvert unloader for a couple of years now and continue to have problems with it (the loader works just fine). I finally got the back-and-forth motion to work properly but am now having trouble with the up-and-down motion.  The pulley attached to the magnet jambs into the carriage at the top of its motion and the motor makes a click click click sound as the gears seem to slip. I have found that I can take the cover off and adjust the length of the threat but this is only a temporary fix. After a few rounds the motion seems to get out of sync and jambs again. It seems as though the upward motion is running a little longer than it should on each cycle.  Does anyone know how this is controlled? Is it a timer, does it count the revolutions, or is there some limit switch? Does anyone have a solution for this?

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Since I've posted this I have taken the whole assembly apart and put it back together again three or four times (each time in fear that I would never get it back together again). I finally got it running pretty well but I just now went down to try it once more before I replied to you and it is no longer working properly.

 

I have found that you can run it through its cycles while the assembly is apart and thus try to synchronize it. Sometimes this seems to work and sometimes it does not.

 

There is a little spool on which the thread is coiled up.  I think that sometimes one or more turns of thread slips off his spool. Also the whole thing seems to get out of synchronization at times. This seems to happen when you stop the operation during the up-and-down cycle as opposed to the back-and-forth cycle.

 

Dave, I have not had any replies except yours. Could it be that we are the only ones having this problem?

I had a similar problem with mine and sent it back to Lionel under warranty and they sent revised instructions back with it. They now say not to shut it off unless the magnet is in the up position. They also want the left transformer terminal connected to the "u" common terminal and the right one to the positive. THey say you can destroy the PCB if you don't wire it that way. According to the tech's notes my PCB failed during testing.

Here is a document that helped me- Lionel service sent it and it describes the timing of the raise and lower switches. 

It is not perfect, maybe there are other steps to add which make it more complete to all users and solve more problems.  I'll be glad to send it as a word doc if anyone wants to add to it.

 

PS- David, sorry my last information did not help. 

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Thanks for the link to the video. It deals with a lot of issues but not with the problem of what happens when the up and down motion gets out of sync. The attachment from Hokie is also helpful.

 

I think my issue now is this: if there is slack in the thread, a turn or more slips off the side of the spool. Has anyone found a way to prevent that?

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