With Lionel's new features in the upcoming UP Big Boy, I again started thinking what features would entice and be interesting to add to trains. While Lionel is going for the big bucks for the Big Boy, there is the possibility that features can trickle down to lower cost items. For me, moving figures in passenger cars and engine cabs rank up high on the "neat" list, even moving figures in buildings would add some life to an otherwise static scene. Even if it was just passenger and engineer heads turning, or hands waving, moving, etc., that would be awesome. I once saw a video of John Armstrong's layout where a cab figure's head turned around 90 or more degrees when the engine was set to reverse - it was pretty neat. Clearly, there's a price point on incorporating features into electric trains, and whether it can be done without maintenance costs, like the whistle steam feature. I am still waiting for command controlled O-scale cars and trucks that don't need rails/slots, kind of like the system the Minature Wonderland in Hamburg utilizes.
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1) Operating/reversing valve gear on scale steam locomotive models.
2) Adjustable drawbar coupling between engine & tender on scale steam models. At the very least, the ability to shorten the drawbar so as to close the distance between the engine & tender, for those modelers with minimum curves of 072 or greater.
3) More prototypical open cylinder cock exhaust steam PLUS the appropriate hissing sounds.
I guess a better question is what are you willing to pay for these features? Would you trade feature accuracy for price?
I guess a better question is what are you willing to pay for these features? Would you trade feature accuracy for price?
If you mean PROTOTYPICAL ACCURACY, then absolutely YES! I pay more NOW to get better prototypical feature accuracy by purchasing Sunset/3rd Rail/Golden Gate Depot products.
So the have all 3 you mentioned?
A 6 year replacement warrenty on any engine costing over $1,000.
My personal feeling is there already are more than enough gimmicky features available. Additional operating features simply mean more things that could go wrong; the likelihood that parts for repairs won't be available long term; and the significant additional cost of the items themselves.
Seems to me a truly creative hobbyist could make some of these things himself or herself, and then know how to make them work and how to fix them if something goes amiss.
A 6 year replacement warrenty on any engine costing over $1,000.
Good one, Joe!
I love to hear about all the cool little features and bells and Whistles (literally) on modern toy trains. A swinging bell is cool, and whistle steam not bad, but mostly I want the things to run smoothly and without issue: that's all. And most do.
One REALLY valuable feature I would pay for: self-cleaning center pickups and wheels.
My personal feeling is there already are more than enough gimmicky features available. Additional operating features simply mean more things that could go wrong; the likelihood that parts for repairs won't be available long term; and the significant additional cost of the items themselves.
Sadly, that is what I thought when seeing the depleting coal on the Big Boy last weekend. It's different, but not knowing the mechanical design worries me that it will not be a good long term idea.
-Dave
1) Electro magnetic anti-slip sensing acceleration off the optical tape.
2) A button that destroys all "crew talk" on the layout.
My personal feeling is there already are more than enough gimmicky features available. Additional operating features simply mean more things that could go wrong; the likelihood that parts for repairs won't be available long term; and the significant additional cost of the items themselves.
Seems to me a truly creative hobbyist could make some of these things himself or herself, and then know how to make them work and how to fix them if something goes amiss.
A big AMEN to that!
Hot Water: I drilled another hole in the drawbar on the tender on the Lionel 0-8-0 I
kitbashed. Seems like it would be a nobrainer for mfrs. to put in sevearl holes so
purchaser can choose how much daylight he wants between engine and tender. As
for day-fly lifespan Mickey Mouse gadgets, I go to great lengths to avoid those, on
my trains and automobiles, where they are long known to cease working as soon as you get off the lot.
Hot Water: I drilled another hole in the drawbar on the tender on the Lionel 0-8-0 I
kitbashed. Seems like it would be a nobrainer for mfrs. to put in sevearl holes so
purchaser can choose how much daylight he wants between engine and tender.
I'll bet it wasn't one of the Lionel drawbars with that infrared "wireless device".
This is the 21st. century. Lets get rid of all the wire and transformers! (except the one for recharging.)
Go wireless, RC & rechargeable. Everything else in our lives is going that way.
I have a bad back and I can no longer deal with the wiring. Have an engine or train pull into a charging station (or track) of some type while others are running. The remote cars can be done that way also. Just one charging transformer & two wires connected to a charging station. (and lets not get into another discussion about exploding batteries.)
It can happen, but I'll never see it in my home in my life.
Dennis
This is the 21st. century. Lets get rid of all the wire and transformers! (except the one for recharging.)
Go wireless, RC & rechargeable. Everything else in our lives is going that way.
Dennis
So what about all the rest of us that have already wired our layouts???
I'll have someone pull my copper wiring (what is in) & take it to the recycle center. I will loose money, but at least I could run some trains before I die.
Many people have given up desk top computers for the most convenient rechargeable devices. That's a big change too.
Dennis
I'll have someone pull my copper wiring (what is in) & take it to the recycle center. I will loose money, but at least I could run some trains before I die.
Dennis
You must have problems, in more ways than one. My layout operates just fine, and in fact we just had a Run Beer, Drink Trains operating session, this past Saturday. We can operate DCS, Legacy, and TMCC all at the same time. I'm sure as he$$ not going to pull all MY wiring out!
yes sir, I do. You have no idea. (Oh, by the way. Thanks for taking everything I said out of text or not including the full text. I shall return the favor.)
Dennis
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
"You must have problems, in more ways than one."
For me, moving figures in passenger cars and engine cabs rank up high on the "neat" list, even moving figures in buildings would add some life to an otherwise static scene. Even if it was just passenger and engineer heads turning, or hands waving, moving, etc., that would be awesome.
That is a good do it yourself project.
Well? Get busy.
Hot Water Nope it was that stinkin" Lionel 0-8-0 that was made in several versions, with
and without front op. coupler and Vanderbilt tender, that I corrected with a kitbash
to find out at York that Lionel made correct versions.
Something neat and innovative,eh? How about every manufacturer improve their quality and drop their prices. If WBB can do it, well...
I love to hear about all the cool little features and bells and Whistles (literally) on modern toy trains. A swinging bell is cool, and whistle steam not bad, but mostly I want the things to run smoothly and without issue: that's all. And most do.
One REALLY valuable feature I would pay for: self-cleaning center pickups and wheels.
Nothing! To much gimmicky crap now. Depleting coal load! Sure what could possibly go wrong?