Internet Explorer again!!

Web servers collect all sorts of statistical information about the folks who visit their sites, which includes browser version information. Folks running web sites can mine that data to profile their visitors.

According to what I found on the web, as of December 2012, All versions of Internet Explorer are reported to have about a 54 percent share of the market. The top four browsers are:

IE 8 @ 23 percent

IE 9 @ 21 percent

Chrome 23 @ 15 percent

Firefox 17 @ 10 percent

Guess it depends who you ask IE ranges from Low 30% to Low 50%

IE 17 is actually pretty new might want to look at all FF use

Chrome use is higher than I expected

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U...hare_of_web_browsers

Chrome is probably higher than expected because google automatically installs it with other software bundles unless the user remembers to uncheck the box.

Earl

One of the few useful "gotcha" downloads 

I've recently run across several sites that did not work properly with Internet Explorer 8. I had to switch to Firefox to get the information I needed.

Chrome also tracks every web site you visit and sends that information back to Google. No thanks.

And Mr. Burfle switched to Firefox? Hmmm...no comment. 

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And Mr. Burfle switched to Firefox? Hmmm...no comment. 

Yes Mr. Webmaster, I switched to Firefox to get the information I wanted from those sites, just as I used Firefox on the OGRR board to let you know I was having problems accessing your website with IE. (The problem was transitory for me, but someone else has since reported the same problem). I still use IE on that desktop. Right now I am using a Windows 8 laptop with IE 10, and am not having any problems.

Whether IE has 30 percent or 50 percent of the market, I thought you might be concerned that your site wasn't working correctly with IE.  There are a lot of people who even though they use computers, really don't know anything about maintaining them or adding software. Some of those folks might like to participate on this board, but won't due to a browser compatibility issue.

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Chrome also tracks every web site you visit and sends that information back to Google. No thanks.

Thanks, I don't think I will try Chrome then.

From what I've "heard", Facebook tracks activity too.

So I normally use Firefox for Facebook, and IE for everything else, unless I hit web sites that don't work correctly with IE.

Mr. Burfle, you have heard correctly. When you log in to Facebook, you have to accept a cookie to log in. There is nothing unusual about that - any site that requires a user name and password has to use cookies to log and save that information. It is done here on this forum, for example.

What is different about Facebook is that they also set a tracking cookie that tracks your every move on the internet and reports that data back to Facebook...and they do this WITHOUT TELLING YOU.

For that reason alone I will have nothing to do with Facebook. I value my privacy far too much to allow that pencil-necked geek Zuckerberg to follow my meanderings on the internet just so he can make a buck.

One column I read points out that, as individuals, most of us just aren't very interesting and all that aggregated data is buried with trillions of other pieces of data.  That is not to say that you shouldn't be careful what you allow to be collected but for most of us, being overcautious to the point where it becomes a pain in the neck probably isn't warranted.  I'm not sure I agree 100% but it is a valid point.

In my opinion, a PROPERLY constructed website takes into account the quirks of the various browsers and codes accordingly.  Designing and coding websites for my current employer, I am REQUIRED to make sure the site works for IE, Chrome and Firefox.  If it works for those 3, it will probably work for the others.

I realize that Rich isn't the one who controls the bulk of the site code.  Hoop.la is the culprit here.  Again, in my opinion, they should be coding so that IE works here.

IE DOES work here, for about 95% of IE users. The problem comes in with various IE plug-ins, some of which are proprietary to Microsoft.

I was just reading some tech support posts on the Hoopla forums and found a post by a person who was having trouble with IE on another Hoopla forum. The Hoopla tech asked him to list the plug-ins he had installed, so they could get a better picture of what was going on. This person had 32 PLUG-INS installed in IE! I shudder to think of the security issues and performance problems that person must have had.

The bottom line is that there is no way ANY web designer can take into account all the various IE plug-ins when writing code for a web site, especially when some of those plug-ins are proprietary to Microsoft.

No, we can't account for any and all plug-ins.  I wasn't aware it was mostly a plug-in issue.  I have to use (and code for) IE at work but I primarily use Chrome and Firefox at home.  I haven't tried IE here but I might do that just to see.  I have zero IE plug-ins.

I tried the "Private Mode" button once, and I think on this site it will cause you to not be able to post or reply (but I don't think it affected viewing)

-Dave

Roger that Earl!

Chrome is pushed to non-savvy users. It doesn't play well with IE. Uninstall it and you have more problems. And talk about privacy invasion, Chrome is the worst offender.

It's not just IE but also other browsers that have plug-ins, add-ons, etc - I use both IE and Firefox and both have just about equivalence in this aspect on all of my computers.  Oddly enough, I've had more problems with Firefox crashing out than IE.  However, one has to be very diligent to not be accepting the installation of stuff that you really do not need and keeping that to the minimum tends to reduce problems.

Consequently, I have not had any problems with any browser on this site.

Here goes, I'll be the brave ignorant one-----So what exactly contitutes a "plug in" or "add on"? tt

When you watch a video here on this forum you are using the Flash plug-in within your browser. There are scores of plug-ins available for the various browsers, most of which are not needed and some of which are potentially harmful.

An Add-On is the addition of a new program feature within the browser, written by a 3rd party and "added on" to the browser program. Here again, most of them are not needed and adding a lot of them will really slow down the browser and cause problems. I have ZERO add-ons installed in Firefox and only the bare minimum of plug-ins needed to browse the web.

Funny how Microsoft always gets "flak" for doing stuff like that..yet Google can fly under the radar with such practices.

I see IE10 is not listed...so I suspect IE usage will hold steady or rise.  The trident engine used in IE10 is very fast and HTML5 compliant.