IVES 116 Station

Wanna know something, I'm certain I just saw this unit at Carr's Hobbies in Duluth MN. $38 

Thank you.

I have just sent Carr's Hobbies an email.

Hopefully the item is still in Stock.

Norman

It was there last Saturday

Let me know how it goes

Hi,

I did not receive a reply email and the store phone number is disconnected.

Norman

In googling Carr's Hobby Shop, it appears that they are closing by November, so it may be that they have gone out of business already.

http://carrshobbies.com/

Nation Wide Lines posted:

In googling Carr's Hobby Shop, it appears that they are closing by November, so it may be that they have gone out of business already.

http://carrshobbies.com/

Sorry to hear that. Carr's is/was my LHS, a true old-style hobby shop and museum combined. A restful retirement to you, Jack.

I was at Carr's yesterday. There is still quite a bit of stock on the shelves for 20% to 25% off. I have been going to Carr's for over 35 years when we visit family. Now that we have moved to Duluth it's closing. 😐 I chatted with Jack and he says the store will be open through December.  Oh and yes I did buy some goodies.  😊

OGRNORMAN,

The version of the Ives 116 that was at Carr's had a plain roof and no columns. But it was in nice condition.  I will post some photo of it later.

Hi Greg,

1) Does CARR'S have a Working Telephone Number?

    I tried the Website Phone Number, " This Number Is No Longer In Service . " message.

2) Does CARR's have an Email Address from which I can receive a Reply ?

3) What is the Price of the IVES 116 Station ?

Thank you,

Norman

My Grandmother's maiden name was Carr.....wonder if we are distantly related.

There's one on eBay with a plain roof and two Pride Lines domes. They are asking a bit of money for it, but those domes are never cheap.

George

OGRNorman posted:

Hi Greg,

 

1) Does CARR'S have a Working Telephone Number?

    I tried the Website Phone Number, " This Number Is No Longer In Service . " message.

2) Does CARR's have an Email Address from which I can receive a Reply ?

3) What is the Price of the IVES 116 Station ?

 

Thank you,

Norman

 

It was $35 or $38 

I have acquired a fairly large collection of very clean Ives stations, especially the 116.  One with 4 exterior lights, the single dome, the double station glass dome and several with the orange and blue lithograph roofs. The Ives society has a great website listing all the variations.  The lowest price I have paid was 400 dollars and the highest over a thousand. The metal these stations were made of was very thin and the walls were soldered to the base causing finish issues on the lithograph.  Also there was little or no metal prep done so most have flaking paint on the base and roof. The station that you show the images of was the single dome, missing the dome but the columns are still intact.  The good ones show up at high end auctions fairly regularly. I have been upgrading for many years but can’t bring myself to let any go. The Ives 116 stations are probably my favorite items in my collection.  If Carr’s has one for 38 dollars I would purchase it in any condition because you can always upgrade later.   

Hi Greg and Keith,

There was the FANCY SLATE TILE Roof Version on Ebay prior to the current Ebay listing.

It sold for under 400.00 .

The Bottom Base of the Station Walls were rusted ALL AROUND the Station.

The Roof was bent at one corner.

I have a sent a 2nd email to CARR'S , as per the Website Email Address , again still no reply.

I am interested in Purchasing Only the 116 Station. I am not interested in the Glass Dome Roof.

"  The good ones show up at high end auctions fairly regularly.  " , Keith who are these High End Auction Sites ?

Greg, would you ask CARR'S to reply to my emails regarding the 116 Station ?

Thank you,

Norman

These 116s come up on the Bay occasionally. Some ridiculously priced. Some more reasonably. If you cannot avail yourself of Carrs' just be patient.

Some folks claim standard gauge collecting is on the decline. If so there will be lots of these for sale in the coming years as folks get older and downsize. We can all agree...tin plate takes up a lot of real estate. 

Personally, I never understood the attraction of the passenger station glass domes. Always felt they were too high priced. (Supply and demand, I guess).

I keep waiting for an Ives 113 or a 116 repo. It's only metal sheet stock and lithography. No where near as complicated or detailed as the MTH Leipzig Station.

Consider all those ornate cookie tins made in China, and England. Maybe Mike is reading this...hmmmmm...

Hi Justakid,

"  Consider all those ornate cookie tins made in China, and England.  " , YES !!! 

that is exactly what I had thought when viewing some CHRISTMAS Cookie Tins.

I had viewed a VICTORIAN ENGLAND Themed Cookie Tin that was

Embossed with Wonderful Colours.

That Cookie Tin manufacturer could produce wonderful Tinplate Buildings and Coach Bodies.

Yes, why has not a Reproduction IVES Station been produced?

I would prefer a Brand New Station with Perfect Not Scratched Lithography

even though there is No Historical Value to a Brand New Product.

Norman

OGRNorman posted:

 

Yes, why has not a Reproduction IVES Station been produced?

I would prefer a Brand New Station with Perfect Not Scratched Lithography

even though there is No Historical Value to a Brand New Product.

 

Norman

 

Pride Lines made a Litho reproduction of this station.  They show up for sale with some frequency.  Should be pretty easy to find one that's in good shape.

The Pridelines reproduction of the 116 station was a different body style. It had cast iron window treatments and different litho.  The Pridelines station was offered with one or two glass domes while the Ives station was offered with no dome, one dome, two stations with one dome, with or without lighted eaves but never with a double dome.  The roof was offered painted, litho in green shingles and litho in orange and blue shingles.  It's a nice thought that someone would reproduce this station however comparing it to the beautiful cookie tins made by Silver crane and others doesn't work because they make thousands of those tins versus hundreds of stations.  The tooling to produce those cookie tins can be amatorized to reduce the cost per unit whereas the station would not produce the numbers needed to do so.  The TCA quarterly regularly lists these premium auctions in which I have purchased several 116 stations in beautiful condition. Yes they do exist but not in great numbers.  It seems that the ones on eBay are a little rougher but these stations are 100 years old so I wouldn't expect to see a ton of really nice ones around. I Realize that the herd is thining, but the really nice pieces seem to hold their value.  Remember you can always upgrade as you go.           Good luck.

and li

OGRNorman posted:

 

Hi Greg and Keith,

 

There was the FANCY SLATE TILE Roof Version on Ebay prior to the current Ebay listing.

It sold for under 400.00 .

The Bottom Base of the Station Walls were rusted ALL AROUND the Station.

The Roof was bent at one corner.

 

I have a sent a 2nd email to CARR'S , as per the Website Email Address , again still no reply.

 

I am interested in Purchasing Only the 116 Station. I am not interested in the Glass Dome Roof.

"  The good ones show up at high end auctions fairly regularly.  " , Keith who are these High End Auction Sites ?

 

Greg, would you ask CARR'S to reply to my emails regarding the 116 Station ?

 

Thank you,

Norman

 

You'll have to find out what number station it is. I didn't know that, I just noticed it was Ives and it looked like what you were looking for I thought

Here's a link to a company in England that seems to imply that lithography is NOT that costly and even refers to digital printing.

https://www.bbpress.co.uk/news...is-it-still-relevant

OGRNORMAN:

I'm Not intending to hijack this thread......just intend to give an example of "modern day"  technology. Here is a recent (10 yrs. or so ago),  S gauge "tinplate, lithograph" station produced by Hallmark.

Made in China.

  The metal work more intricate than an Ives. Station, and the added plastic roof peak trim really enhancing the overall appearance. Original retail was around $35. Current secondary market $10 to $30. 

IF a person could get a clean, ..to scale, ..photo copy of the exterior sidewalls and overall roof patterns, you could probably "create" your own 116 by printing on heavy cardstock or even vinyl  and affixing  the "photo" copy to sheet metal stock. A few metal cuts and appropriate bends,  and you would have a "new" 116. 

Someone here on THIS  forum has already done something similar with a (Marklin?) Station.

So....it is still possible to re-produce.

Check out Walmart photo prints. Photo poster prints run $9 to $19 depending on size needed for each segment. Each segment (building side (4),  roof (2), roof ends(2) ..plus) would need to be printed to scale. After all your efforts you might incur costs of $100 +. 

Some folks would say..." buy one with the rust, scratches and dings". I did my own attempt but was not satisfied with the results. It's on the "back burner" for now. I cleaned up a "rusty" one instead.

Best regards

I made my own rendition of an Ives station using my computer, MS Paint and pictures found on the interwebs. It was printed on cardtock, sprayed with a clear gloss finish and attached to a foam core substructure. Don't have full views of the station on me at the moment. It's considerably smaller than a real Ives station, but I intended for it to fit my layout and Marx trains. the guts from an American Flyer whistling billboard reside inside so there are openings in the gables to help let out the sound.

Hi HANDYANDY,

Excellent Work.

That is exactly my thought as well.

Hopefully I will be able to purchase a 116 Station that is not too rough for a Graphic Artist to then photograph and clean up the damaged images to appear as Brand New.

Possibly Print in 1/24 Scale for my " G Scale " Track Gauge No. 1 Train.

Norman

Handyandy, outstanding job on the card stock station. I hear people say this is a rich persons hobby, but you have shown that a little creativity and you can have a station just as awesome as any Ives station. That station would make a great article for the magazine if you hold off posting any more pics.

I'm trying to sell one of these very large Ives stations that is in terrific shape (see photos). Does anyone know what the value is?

What do you want to get out of it?  Thanks. Max